pep guardiola

[NipHolmes]

Putting my neck on the line here but I'm willing to punt that if he doesn't come here he will go for the Arsenal job.

If Vieira takes the EDS job he's next in line for the job which kind of blows hole in the Pep to City next logic.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Putting my neck on the line here but I'm willing to punt that if he doesn't come here he will go for the Arsenal job.

If Vieira takes the EDS job he's next in line for the job which kind of blows hole in the Pep to City next logic.

Cant see him going to a team that will only be fighting for 3rd or 4th at best
Unless Usmanov took full control and gave an open chequebook,thats the only chance..

 

[NipHolmes]

Putting my neck on the line here but I'm willing to punt that if he doesn't come here he will go for the Arsenal job.

If Vieira takes the EDS job he's next in line for the job which kind of blows hole in the Pep to City next logic.

Cant see him going to a team that will only be fighting for 3rd or 4th at best
Unless Usmanov took full control and gave an open chequebook,thats the only chance..

Your last line made me chuckle hahaha. Where have I read that? ;)

The stadium will be paid off soon and even with that parasite Kroenke at the helm they will still have funds available. Us, United, Chelsea or Arsenal. I'd make us faves, then United and Arsenal third but I have a sneaky suspicion that if we pass on him then Arsenal will take the chance if it's available. I reckon Giggs or Ole will succeed Moyes.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

Putting my neck on the line here but I'm willing to punt that if he doesn't come here he will go for the Arsenal job.

If Vieira takes the EDS job he's next in line for the job which kind of blows hole in the Pep to City next logic.

Cant see him going to a team that will only be fighting for 3rd or 4th at best
Unless Usmanov took full control and gave an open chequebook,thats the only chance..

Your last line made me chuckle hahaha. Where have I read that? ;)

The stadium will be paid off soon and even with that parasite Kroenke at the helm they will still have funds available. Us, United, Chelsea or Arsenal. I'd make us faves, then United and Arsenal third but I have a sneaky suspicion that if we pass on him then Arsenal will take the chance if it's available. I reckon Giggs or Ole will succeed Moyes.

I think he will come here tbh mate(academy and all that)and especially if we do really well under pellegrini which will pave the way for him
Should be a nice start for him in his first managerial post outside of spain
Celtic have more chance of not winning the spl than pep doing the likewise in the bundesliga...

 

[afro2007]

he will not make it in first season but the second will be a success for him.

 

[Syth]

he will not make it in first season but the second will be a success for him.

Why do you think so? In my opinion he will win the league at least, the cup as well maybe. CL we all know is hard as f.ck to win twice in a roll so no clue there. The super cups and the world club cup thingy might also go to them.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

There's no way city or bayern have made a managerial appointment for a fixed term of two years. It's not what you do in football. That's not to say that guardiola might not become our manager at some point. He might or he might not. But to suggest that a decision has been to bring him here in 2 years is, in my opinion, nonsense.

Noone know what will happen to us or bayern in those two years. It would be ludicrous to make any kind of decision now to fit a set of circumstances of which no one has any knowledge. What you can guarantee 100% is that if pellegrini is a success, city will hang on to him, regardless of who wants the job.

 

[NipHolmes]

There's no way city or bayern have made a managerial appointment for a fixed term of two years. It's not what you do in football. That's not to say that guardiola might not become our manager at some point. He might or he might not. But to suggest that a decision has been to bring him here in 2 years is, in my opinion, nonsense.

Noone know what will happen to us or bayern in those two years. It would be ludicrous to make any kind of decision now to fit a set of circumstances of which no one has any knowledge.

Vieira for me by looks of it.

I agree with you, it could happen but why on earth would City give Pellegrini a 3 year deal and same with Pep if this was the plan? Not only will we have to pay Bayern compensation (if his reign is successful) and also pay Pellegrini off. Doesn't add up for me.

In all honesty I'm praying Pellegrini nails this job to the wall and we keep him longer than the 3 years if possible. Not even slightly interested who's on offer after his reign, just hope he does a great job and stays.

 

[dobobobo]

is coming to city in two years time, that is all ! all done ! haters plaese avoid this thread. munich is a stop gap at the moment. i will take the accolades in 2 years!

A year ago when you posted this thread I couldn't see it, now I do.

My view is Pellegrini knew himself that he had two years to achieve success, and he had to hit the ground running. Unless we catch up in dramatic style I think it will be Guardiola.

(BlueMooners N.B. I am not bumping this thread to cause trouble. Please read below before kicking off.)

I bumped this thread because it has been a year (I'm busy on Tuesday) since it was posted. So I'm interested to know people's thoughts a year on.

I actually like Pellegrini and I have defended him all season. But I am not naive, football has changed and no manger/coach is at a club now for life. (Fuck the Fergiscum arguement. The top managers move around clubs and countries to try and prove how good they are and challenge themselves. Fergiescum did fuck all in that sense.) I'm not saying that if Pellegrini doesn't achieve this season then he has to go, I'm just thinking that the people in charge will do what needs to be done.

 

[Txiki Txiki Bang Bang]

Pep said he wouldn't be leaving Bayern until Hoeness is out of jail and that's in 2years time . So I think MP still has 2 more seasons . Pep's tenure could probably be defined by how well our youth academy develop the young players, Its a well know fact that Pep likes his team to have a nationalistic back bone (he said this over and over again in numerous interviews). So in my opinion we have to step up the youth development (especially that of the young English players) and set extremely high targets for them . Its a good thing the elite training facility is already completed .

 

[CitizenTID]

Pep said he wouldn't be leaving Bayern until Hoeness is out of jail and that's in 2years time . So I think MP still has 2 more seasons . Pep's tenure could probably be defined by how well our youth academy develop the young players, Its a well know fact that Pep likes his team to have a nationalistic back bone (he said this over and over again in numerous interviews). So in my opinion we have to step up the youth development (especially that of the young English players) and set extremely high targets for them . Its a good thing the elite training facility is already completed .

That fits with Pellegrini's 3 year contract he signed but why would he say that?

 

[City Raider]

Pep said he wouldn't be leaving Bayern until Hoeness is out of jail and that's in 2years time . So I think MP still has 2 more seasons . Pep's tenure could probably be defined by how well our youth academy develop the young players, Its a well know fact that Pep likes his team to have a nationalistic back bone (he said this over and over again in numerous interviews). So in my opinion we have to step up the youth development (especially that of the young English players) and set extremely high targets for them . Its a good thing the elite training facility is already completed .

wow Hoeness is really committed to keeping Pep! What next, drug trafficking?

 

[peoffrey]

Putting my neck on the line here but I'm willing to punt that if he doesn't come here he will go for the Arsenal job.

If Vieira takes the EDS job he's next in line for the job which kind of blows hole in the Pep to City next logic.

Klopp will go to Arsenal. If City can offer Pep more money with Barcelona men at the helm then he'll come here. He's still so young too and must surely want to test himself in the Premier League. Success at Barcelona and Bayern Munich doesn't just happen...

 

[madden150]

Hope I don't regret this but Id be quite happy to see Vieira get the job in a few years. I think he says all the right things, has a great football brain and if we didn't I think he'll go somewhere else and do the business big time.

 

[LoveCity]

Vieira sounds like a nice prospect... organic, holistic, natural... insert other buzzwords.

My only concern/question is, will he really be better than Pellegrini or Mancini?

City seems to idolise the Barcelona way, since we have ex-Barca chiefs in charge who have seen their 'way' work, but to me we have still not had an A+ coach and I worry we could continue to underachieve without one.

So for me, even if Vieira being promoted is the 'holistic' thing to do, I'd have Pep here before him all day long because Pep is a proven winner and has managed two bigger clubs than City, so would be able to handle the job quite well (on paper).

Vieira could turn out as good as Pep... but is that possibility worth risking more years of potential underachievement IF the scenario emerges where we could have either Pep or Vieira?

(or make Vieira his assistant and everyone is happy)

 

[CitizenTID]

Vieira sounds like a nice prospect... organic, holistic, natural... insert other buzzwords.

My only concern/question is, will he really be better than Pellegrini or Mancini?

City seems to idolise the Barcelona way, since we have ex-Barca chiefs in charge who have seen their 'way' work, but to me we have still not had an A+ coach and I worry we could continue to underachieve without one.

So for me, even if Vieira being promoted is the 'holistic' thing to do, I'd have Pep here before him all day long because Pep is a proven winner and has managed two bigger clubs than City, so would be able to handle the job quite well (on paper).

Vieira could turn out as good as Pep... but is that possibility worth risking more years of potential underachievement IF the scenario emerges where we could have either Pep or Vieira?

(or make Vieira his assistant and everyone is happy)

I like your thinking. If Pep was here and took him on as assistant he would be learning from one of the best. It's up to Vieira whether he wants to take a top level job sooner and risk falling short of the mark or give himself time to learn as best he can before taking on the responsibility and having a great chance of sustaining it

 

[bobom]

I know the heart says it would be great for Viera to be our managed after MP. But is it realistic to expect someone with so little experience as a manager to a) get the job and b) succeed in it. I know people will point to Guardiola, but he really is an exception...

 

[dobobobo]

Vieira sounds like a nice prospect... organic, holistic, natural... insert other buzzwords.

My only concern/question is, will he really be better than Pellegrini or Mancini?

City seems to idolise the Barcelona way, since we have ex-Barca chiefs in charge who have seen their 'way' work, but to me we have still not had an A+ coach and I worry we could continue to underachieve without one.

So for me, even if Vieira being promoted is the 'holistic' thing to do, I'd have Pep here before him all day long because Pep is a proven winner and has managed two bigger clubs than City, so would be able to handle the job quite well (on paper).

Vieira could turn out as good as Pep... but is that possibility worth risking more years of potential underachievement IF the scenario emerges where we could have either Pep or Vieira?

(or make Vieira his assistant and everyone is happy)

Aye, I share this view too. If Pellegrini is to go then Pep and with Vieira as number 2 would be the way to go for me. Just depends what happens in the summer. Wenger will be gone in the summer, I'm certain of it, so Vieira will either stay or go to Arsenal. I can't see Arsenal taking him on as the main man but I can see him going there as number 2.

The ideal for me would be for Vieira to stay, step up to number 2, and bring some kids with him.

 

[dobobobo]

I know the heart says it would be great for Viera to be our managed after MP. But is it realistic to expect someone with so little experience as a manager to a) get the job and b) succeed in it. I know people will point to Guardiola, but he really is an exception...

Yep. I'm still baffled as to why AC Milan thought Seedorf was the answer for this season atleast. He seems to be turning it around a bit now, but as good as he was as a player it was too big a job for him to take on as manager for first time. Like you say Guardiola is the exception, but he also did his time on the coaching team at Barca.

 

[Hungarian blue]

I know the heart says it would be great for Viera to be our managed after MP. But is it realistic to expect someone with so little experience as a manager to a) get the job and b) succeed in it. I know people will point to Guardiola, but he really is an exception...

Yep. I'm still baffled as to why AC Milan thought Seedorf was the answer for this season atleast. He seems to be turning it around a bit now, but as good as he was as a player it was too big a job for him to take on as manager for first time. Like you say Guardiola is the exception, but he also did his time on the coaching team at Barca.

Yes, Guardiola had one season with Barca 'B' and it was Txiki who took the risk and hired him as the manager after Rijkaard. It was a huge risk, but I guess Txiki just recognized the talent Pep had.

Maybe he sees that in Vieira, too. At least we can be sure that he is willing to make a such risky and big appointment if he thinks it's the best option.