peter.evans
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mancity1 said:Didsbury Dave said:Santiago Street . said:I'm not as far up Pep's arse as the Barca/Txiki fanboys on here but to use one of Jamie's favourite words I was gobsmacked by the overpromoted Carragher's hatchet job on Bayern and Pep after the game. They were clearly the better team and some nights things just don't drop for you. For me they're still favourites to win the CL. Pep's not the God that some think he is but he didn't warrant such a slating from a recently retired half decent centre back
The guy who argued that Pep's Barca at their peak were overeulogized in the media had it right. Tiki taka isn't a magical pathway to success for a club ready to devote themselves holistically to it's implementation. Messi was the magic ingredient in that great Barca team, take him out and they're slightly better than Arsenal post Henry. But the easily influenced on here (and in our boardroom) can't or won't see that, all they want is tiki taka. And for some of them, their slavish devotion to it is pure football snobbery. It's almost become vulgar these days to soak up pressure and strike on the break or to use wingers who go on the outside and cross the ball or to shoot from distance. The fashion right now is for pretty triangles and one touch passing. Vinny's comment about it not being enough to win anymore, now we have to win "the right way" is proof that this mindset is, sadly, endemic at City.
"There are many ways to fuck a pig and the pig is fucked best if a combination of these ways is used"
PMSL. You are at it again. A walking, talking personification of the cult of the forum fool. An empty vessel given a platform to make strange noises loudly.
Your first thirteen words are a thing of such gargantuan ignorance and stupidity that they are quite beautiful, in the way that a tornado or spider can be.
Keep up the good work lad. This thread is getting enjoyable.
If Vinny actually said its not enough to win anymore he is treading a fine line because under his stewardship to date at least we obviously haven't won enough for enough of the time.
Too much is made of how to go about playing and not enough about how to go about winning.
As is often said winners are grinners and losers can please themselves.
Competitive sport at the highest level is all about winning and VK if he wants to go down in history as a winner will do everything he can to ensure we do that as often as possible to land silverware or else he will be considered a failure by us and his peers when he retires.
Triangles are for children in early maths classes to learn more about.
So are those that play in triangles not winners ! ?Brazil built their game around skill technique and possession and are the most successful national team ever. They play a similar way to Barca I.e. in triangles or whatever you want to call it but they understand that by retaining ppossession they are also defending, a concept most Englishmen cannot seem to grasp ! They also play a wonderful attacking style of football that is a pleasure to watch. English football is the polar opposite of tiki taka or playing in triangles as you could hope to get. It brawn over brain thud and blunder yet some people seem to like it , but it has been a complete failure yet we still can't see it ! Spain Barca and Brazil are inextricably linked and look at their success.