Pep only here 3 years?

goalmole said:
In the interest of even handedness shouldn't the forum management be making representations to the Mirror to point this anomaly out to them while soliciting their reasons as to why other forums are allowed to do exactly what we have been threatened with legal action for.
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Or they could turn into a force 8 gale and have a pissing contest instead.
 
BlueAnorak said:
If he is the family man everyone says he wants to be it will depend on his family. In December his children were aged
13 (Marius), 11 (Maria) and 7 (Valentina). Sadly I can't quickly find the exact birth dates but his is a very poor spread for changing work location for the next 9 years.
There are however windows for movement the school year that:
1. Marius is 16 in 3? years time.
2. Maria is 16 in 5/6? years time assuming Marius is 19 that school year.
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Good valid points mate, sooner or later he will need to put roots down for his family
 
Better to prepare for 3 years and be happy if it's longer than to expect more and get less. City, and any other big club, are always preparing for years down the line. You have to at least have some sort of plan in place.
 
hahahahaah 3 years he be lucky to see out the first 6months with the media in this country if we don't beat stoke on a wet and windy Tuesday night he's fucked
 
Shaelumstash said:
I've never understood this stance against the Mirror. They basically requested we post links in the forum as opposed to copy and pasting the articles directly, what's the problem?

Before the internet, if they'd requested you didn't photocopy thousands of copies of their back page, blacked out the adverts, and handed them out on the street, I don't think it would be seen as an unreasonable request.

In the internet age, newspapers generate their revenue by the amount of clicks they get on their site. The more clicks, the higher the premium advertisers will pay. Newspapers are hardly flourishing, they're actually on their arse. Revenue they get from clicks goes towards paying the journalists and photographers who get the stories that we can talk about on here.

If we never clicked on a newspaper site again, they would get no revenue. They would then be forced to close, and eventually we would have no free press. That's not a society I want to live in.

The Mirror, or any other newspaper asking you to click a link as opposed to copy and pasting their content is basically them asking for you not to steal their product. I don't think that is unreasonable. It doesn't cost you anything to click the link, all it does it cost the advertisers more. I really don't understand what the problem is.

Everybody seems to want a free press, wants journalists to exist, but no one wants to pay for it anymore. That is the modern world, people aren't buying newspapers anymore, we want our news for free. That's fine, but then who pays the journalists wages?

Consuming news for free is seemingly what everyone wants. But the reality is, there are costs involved with reporting the news, and someone has to pay for it. The Mirror wanting us to paste links means the advertisers are paying for it, and we are getting it for free. I really don't think that is unreasonable.
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Free press does not exist, that utopia has been gone for some time.... however you do make a valid point about the link.
 
Part of me likes to think that this is finally the job where he'll settle down for more than the usual 3 year stretch and fall in love with the club as Aguero, Silva, Kompany and Zabaleta have but that's more wishful thinking than anything else.
It's a time to enjoy though, I know that much. Seeing first hand what the man can do after only watching from afar is mouthwatering. Hearing the praise he gets from fellow players and managers blows me away. It seems pretty much everyone is in agreement that his football philosophy is unmatched and the time and effort he puts into preparation is off the scale. Along with the pull he has it really is a fantastic time to be a City fan.
 
I think Pep's plan right now will be 3 years then do 1.

But if he becomes a City fan, that may change. All down to how he & his family settle & how much enjoyment he gets & how much emotional intensity he uses up in the job I imagine.

But right now, I doubt he has any intention of staying after 3 years.
 
He could stay longer than the typical 3 year stretch he subscribes due mainly to Txiki et al. Depends on a number of factors although Pep is an idealist and I suspect he will look for another challenge (Perhaps a NT) before returning to Barcelona in some capacity down the line
 
Zickler said:
Free press does not exist, that utopia has been gone for some time.... however you do make a valid point about the link.
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Thanks mate. I understand your point about a free press, every publication and media outlet has their own agenda to suit their own needs. However, while there is still so much competition in the press, the truth still manages to squueze out, and people are still held to account.

If all of the less viewed papers disappeared we'd be left with the Daily Mail and The Sun, which are the two biggest papers in circulation by far. I don't want to live in a world where they are the only two news outlets available to the country. And if they both had their way, the BBC wouldn't even exist as a news service, a scary thought.

We all have our own preferences for news, and my personal view is that although I might not agree with the Mail, sometimes might not agree with the Mirror, Telegraph, Guardian, whatever, it's important for society and for debate that they all exist and all offer an alternative view.

That's why I think it's right to provide links on here to whichever paper has a City related story, it's better for the country if there are multiple outlets for news, whether you agree with their political commentary or not.
 
The Mirror are never wrong, and they never ever do anything for just clickbait. They are a well respected Newspaper and we should all be worried about this. They know what theyre talking about and are never wrong when predicting future.
 
Pablo1 said:
Part of me likes to think that this is finally the job where he'll settle down for more than the usual 3 year stretch and fall in love with the club as Aguero, Silva, Kompany and Zabaleta have but that's more wishful thinking than anything else.
It's a time to enjoy though, I know that much. Seeing first hand what the man can do after only watching from afar is mouthwatering. Hearing the praise he gets from fellow players and managers blows me away. It seems pretty much everyone is in agreement that his football philosophy is unmatched and the time and effort he puts into preparation is off the scale. Along with the pull he has it really is a fantastic time to be a City fan.
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There's huge rumours that he's desperate for the Brazil job for Qatar 2022. I think Soriano wants us to work in cycles and by then, a new Pep may be on the horizon.
 
DJBusinesscake said:
The Mirror are never wrong, and they never ever do anything for just clickbait. They are a well respected Newspaper and we should all be worried about this. They know what theyre talking about and are never wrong when predicting future.
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In fairness, Pep has gone on record a few times to say that he finds the prospect of staying at one club for a long time to be "boring" and that he doesn't plan on staying at clubs beyond 3 years. He's also hinted he could retire early (as in, very early). So all this is hardly beyond the realms of belief.
 
Shaelumstash said:
If you hope all of the national press go bust, what do you think will fill the vacuum it leaves? There will be some very rich people / companies / government bodies with their own agenda who will be dictating the news cycle.

The system we have now of a free press is absolutely essential to democracy. As much as the tabloid press publish some utter click-baiting shite, at least there is competition. A free press means people will be held to account, the truth will out.

Take Murdoch who's the biggest media mogul in the country. If he controlled all of the press, the News of the World hacking scandal would never have come out. He could carry on doing as he pleased, invading people's lives, liberties, and even if he got caught, there would be no alternative press that would report on it.

I'm proud to live in a democratic country, and one of the corner stones of a democracy is a free press. They aren't perfect, but they play an incredibly important role in society. The idea that if all the national papers went bust that some plucky volunteers would research and publish all of the news for us on Twitter is just an absolute fallacy. How would those people survive and make a living, and how could we trust that they were telling the truth if they were not accountable to anyone?

Music is rather different. The cost of producing and marketing music has come down ten fold in the last 20 years. Music can be produced to recordable standard now in a bedroom with £2k worth of equipment. 25 years ago it might cost £2k a hour to work in a studio with comparable technology. Bands can now launch themselves on social media and get millions of plays / views for their songs for absolutely nothing. Again 25 years ago that exposure would cost hundreds of thousands of pounds in marketing, video production etc.

Many people get music for free now, so artists aren't getting the same income from record sales. But songwriters are still getting paid comparable amounts for publishing when their music is used on radio, TV etc, and live gigs have never been more popular, with more people attending music events now than ever before, and prices going up to reflect it. So with music, yes sales are down, but the cost of producing and marketing music has also fallen dramatically, and the live aspect is doing very well.

Journalism is a completely different industry. Newspaper sales are in terminal decline, people are becoming more savvy online using adblockers etc, so even advertising revenues aren't picking up the slack. Music and art plays an important role in society, but it's essentially entertainment. Whether record labels exist in ten years, or whether musicians become millionaires, is debatable, but new music will always be produced regardless.

If national newspapers cease to exist, the ramifications for democratic society are a lot more stark than if the record labels go bust.
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We don't have a free press but the apparency of one.

The same as we don't have a democracy but the apparency of one.

For instance did you vote to invade a country solely to support the USA's empire in the oil producing Middle East? This is exactly what this country did.

Have you voted to have young kids drugged with anti psychotics in the name of medicine? Think about it. A kid gets bored with school so rebels a bit. This becomes an excuse to drug him with a chemical straitjacket that can produce suicidal impulses. Because he is "mentally ill".

The press is a managed entity that prints lies for the sake of controversy.

1984 by George Orwell was pretty much spot on as a prediction. The world is not there yet but it's being worked towards by our "democratic" masters.
 
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