Pep's contract situation | 2 year extension confirmed! (pg1817)

[OccupiedPalestineBlues]

i think it at least gives the board 2 years to plan for a new boss. It would end the uncertainty because everyone would know his end date For sure. Pep can also oversee a bit of a rebuilding process For two years, hopefully leaving the first team in a good position for the new manager.

The board will have had a plan to replace Pep from the moment he signed. All serious businesses look to mitigate forward risks with 1, 3, 5 and even 10 year plans.
All key staff will be subject to succession planning in terms of replacement at completion of contracts and even to cover for sudden illnesses or long term injury.
If any key staff walked off into the sunset tomorrow then rest assured that there’s a prioritised list of replacements that’s constantly updated to consider suitability, cost and availability.
Pep, as part of the senior team, will himself be involved in planning for his own replacement.

 

[SINCS]

Perhaps we’re all unrealistic to expect 3 titles on the bounce. United had no credible competition in the league when they achieved this. I often say it is not enough to do well, you need others to do badly.

 

[Marvin]

Alaba and Boateng are miles better as a combo than a coming back from a terrible injury Laporte and Dinho/Garcia. And Bayern's FBs are better too. Kimmich's on a different level to Walker.

I rate Walker a lot. Boateng? Don't like him at all. Barcelona want garcia. He's in the Spanish national squad.

We had decisions to make and took the wrong options, hopefully the errors of judgement do not leave a permanent mark. I don't think they will but we shall have to wait and see. In the meantime City have to get the chequebook out again and buy a central defender.

 

[alexmcity]

I rate Walker a lot. Boateng? Don't like him at all. Barcelona want garcia. He's in the Spanish national squad.

We had decisions to make and took the wrong options, hopefully the errors of judgement do not leave a permanent mark. I don't think they will but we shall have to wait and see. In the meantime City have to get the chequebook out again and buy a central defender.

I rate Garcia as a talent but he isn't ready to play against Lewandowski, Mbappe, Neymar, Mane, Salah, Kane, etc. I doubt he would start for most PL teams. Barcelona want him because he is very talented, supports Barca and is available on the cheap. Yet they are not ready to pay 20-30m for him which they would do for any genuine top class CB without thinking.

I also happen to think Pep made mistakes against Arsenal and Lyon. I don't know whether these mistakes will prove costly wrt next season. Pep has never managed 5 seasons at any club. Given his intense style, this might be a problem. Time will tell. I'm grateful for what he has achieved so far though. No team in history has dominated English football like this - both in terms of records and style.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Bet the Sheikh, Pep and players are absolutely fine with no European glory because "true City fans" aren't bothered. Maybe we need some PR to help our fans understand the importance of progression in Europe for this club, given the stage we have now reached. How can you stand the fact that Spurs have reached a CL final with Pochettino, when in fact our coach and our squad is head and shoulders above, and we got embarrassed in quarters by their side. If that doesn't make our fans want better from us idk what can

I think you are right. It is reasonable for us fans to set the bar higher. I am firmly in the camp that winning the Premier League is a more impressive task than winning the Champions League but the CL has more prestige worldwide and, whatever any of us think, we need to win in Europe to continue moving forward. Winning the Champions League would put push us to the next level.
However I think our squad is still short on quality. I don't think many of our team would get in the present Bayern team, and certainly none of our defence.

 

[Marvin]

I rate Garcia as a talent but he isn't ready to play against Lewandowski, Mbappe, Neymar, Mane, Salah, Kane, etc. I doubt he would start for most PL teams. Barcelona want him because he is very talented, supports Barca and is available on the cheap. Yet they are not ready to pay 20-30m for him which they would do for any genuine top class CB without thinking.

I also happen to think Pep made mistakes against Arsenal and Lyon. I don't know whether these mistakes will prove costly wrt next season. Pep has never managed 5 seasons at any club. Given his intense style, this might be a problem. Time will tell. I'm grateful for what he has achieved so far though. No team in history has dominated English football like this - both in terms of records and style.

Barcelona no longer have money to burn.

 

[B\connellblue]

Criticisms from City fans are way OTT.

How many managers are better (for City) than Pep? Are they available? Who is guaranteed to win the CL?

In hindsight Pep made mistakes against Lyon. But different tactics wouldn't guarantee success either.

Take a look at our defence: Walker's good but is not consistent, has mistakes in him and offers little in attack cimpared to other top RBs. Cancelo is good as well but is not a natural LB. Garcia and Fernandinho are not at the required level for a CL winning side, Laporte is back from a very bad injury and it will take several months of regular games to regain form.

Why is Pep supposed to win the CL with such a defence? He tried to be clever and make us more stable in defence with 3 CBs but it backfired. We still could have won if referees saw the foul on Laporte for Lyon's 2nd.

So, we didn't have a good defence to win the CL and we had to do it with referees biased against us. Many fans are angry about Pep because they underestimated our problems in defence. Relentless pressing helped us against Real. Chances are we couldn't press so well against Bayern or PSG, as we had to play every 4 days.

Get behind Pep instead of helping media get on his back and mentally wear him down.

Well it's high time we had a good enough defence. What are our recruitment team at? People are far too forgiving as far as the champions League goes. I hope Pep is embarrassed by losing to Lyon ,if not he should be. He has not improved out fortunes one iota in that competition . had we went down all guns blazing fair enough but we didn't and the way Pep set us up was the main reason for that. Missed opportunity for me.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Those criticising Pep need to view this year as a holding year.
After two very good seasons, you would expect something to give.

But i don't think that was it.
We have a recruiting plan that is well thought out in advance. This stops us making impulse buys that can wreck the squad balance and wage structure. Look at the rags to see what unplanned buys can do to you.

I honestly think Kompany's sudden departure derailed us. It wasn't just replacing his position that threw us, more by his leadership loss as well. Us not wanting to replace without careful thought first meant no action at all.
We gambled that Laporte would stay fit and it didn't work.

Pep has known all season we were unbalanced and has tried to compensate. He over compensated versus Lyon.
His system depends on having the right players. His first season here proved that.
Once he gets the right players that know the system, we click.

I honestly believe that once the back is sorted out this transfer window, we will see a different side.
It doesn't mean we will win the Champions league next time, but we should be much more balanced to make a proper challenge.

I think losing the influence off the field of Kompany, Arteta, and Torrent has taken its toll. When you couple this with some bad injuries, the Covid chaos, the long and distracting UEFA legal battle, and Pep's personal bereavement you can see how difficult this season has been.
It may sound like I am making excuses but sometimes shit happens and perhaps we should cut the club a bit of slack. I agree that next season will be critical.

 

[MillsyTheMosher]

Having a chat with my mate about this last night.

I was saying that for me it’s a no brainer to give Vincent the managers/head coach role when Pep decides to go.

Yes, he hasn’t got much managerial experience but what he has got is exceptional people skills, natural leadership, respect and authority which is more than half the battle. He also know the club and hierarchy inside out.

Experience is often over rated for me. Take Hansi Flick for example. Only ever been an assistant- he’s given an opportunity and wins everything.

It’s a big yes from me and I hope we can welcome Vincent home soon.

 

[peoffrey]

Patrick Vieira was a name I always thought of. Played for City too late in his career but appeared a good influence on players.