PES 2016

[ell]

Not owned PES for a few years now because all my mates play FIFA and I only buy that every 2 years. Played the PES demo the other day and really enjoyed it but christ ive gone shit at it

 

[Akai]

didn't download the demo yet, most teams are still not licensed? been a while since I played PES.

 

[Super David Silva 21]

Last PES soccer i had was 14, the gameplay was great as i recall.

Can you play online on this as in does it have it's own version of ultimate team?/

 

[quiet_riot]

Last PES soccer i had was 14, the gameplay was great as i recall.

Can you play online on this as in does it have it's own version of ultimate team?/

Yep, myClub is the FUT equivalent. Nothing like as polished though really.

 

[ono]

New PES is absolutely mint. Best footy game i've ever played.

Has Tika Taka, Gengenpresing, False 9, False Fullbacks (How we play with full backs playing centre mid) and a load of other modern tactics. Plays beautifully. Licences are shit but there's some belting option files. Least the Champions League is fully licensed so i can sit there booing til my heart is content.

Fifa 17 demo is quite good as well although still don't think EA have really grasped the feeling of football. Does look better than PES though imo, just doesn't play as well. Still probably worth a purchase though.

 

[markbmcfc]

Any recommendations for a PS4 option file?

 

[Metalartin]

New PES is absolutely mint. Best footy game i've ever played.

Has Tika Taka, Gengenpresing, False 9, False Fullbacks (How we play with full backs playing centre mid) and a load of other modern tactics. Plays beautifully. Licences are shit but there's some belting option files. Least the Champions League is fully licensed so i can sit there booing til my heart is content.

Fifa 17 demo is quite good as well although still don't think EA have really grasped the feeling of football. Does look better than PES though imo, just doesn't play as well. Still probably worth a purchase though.

Have you been online with it yet? If there's one thing I wanted them to improve it was the netcode, in past games there was a lot of packet loss/lag masking going on to smooth out the experience to the point where it felt you were either 2 seconds behind or not in control at all... Weirder still some games still had that rubber-banding feel to it when we're both on 100mb+ and both in the UK. It seems something that hasn't improved at all(in a lot of games, all the money goes into graphics and things they can show off, it's not really a wow feature) even though speeds have gotten much faster with online gaming sadly. Maybe these developers see it as something that a) Not everyone thinks is important if they play offline b) With the masking to hide it and smooth it out rather than address it by having less latency/input lag... a lot of gamers simply don't notice and adjust their reactions to it naturally, I find once you point it out to someone they start to see it and recognise just how different it feels vs offline.

I might pick it up on PC and just play it offline this time, I agree PES is much more satisfying for the way it captures the feel of football, it's more than just the graphics and animations(which to be honest FIFA probably has the edge in both now) it's how it all works together, the flow of the game, how they react and the way the ball moves itself.

 

[ono]

Any recommendations for a PS4 option file?

http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?t=100756

or

http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?t=100497

When importing only do a max of 10 at a time as people are complaining about crashes. I haven't downloaded one yet and probably won't get a proper chance to do so til Sunday. A few people have said installing kits and whatnot makes the game slightly less responsive but then others have said that's total bullshit.

Straight out of the box, from a gameplay point of view i think it is superb. Just a shame Konami don't have all the licenses and don't appear to value presentation as a worthwhile thing to work on. It will never outdo Fifa without sorting the licenses and presentation out. Typical Konami really. Release a brilliantly playable game but include hardly any stadiums, don't bother doing a transfer update and don't put much thought into the overall presentation.

That said, the Nou Camp looks mint on it.

 

[ono]

Have you been online with it yet? If there's one thing I wanted them to improve it was the netcode, in past games there was a lot of packet loss/lag masking going on to smooth out the experience to the point where it felt you were either 2 seconds behind or not in control at all... Weirder still some games still had that rubber-banding feel to it when we're both on 100mb+ and both in the UK. It seems something that hasn't improved at all(in a lot of games, all the money goes into graphics and things they can show off, it's not really a wow feature) even though speeds have gotten much faster with online gaming sadly. Maybe these developers see it as something that a) Not everyone thinks is important if they play offline b) With the masking to hide it and smooth it out rather than address it by having less latency/input lag... a lot of gamers simply don't notice and adjust their reactions to it naturally, I find once you point it out to someone they start to see it and recognise just how different it feels vs offline.

I might pick it up on PC and just play it offline this time, I agree PES is much more satisfying for the way it captures the feel of football, it's more than just the graphics and animations(which to be honest FIFA probably has the edge in both now) it's how it all works together, the flow of the game, how they react and the way the ball moves itself.

I haven't tried online but i'm not a massive fan of online footy anyway as i think you always end up playing against through ball spammers and spoiled kids who quit if you go ahead.

I would imagine it will be shite online anyway. I can't remember the last PES which was stable online.

But yeah offline the gameplay is so good. One thing that Fifa has never got right is the inertia between the player and the pitch. It has always felt like the players are almost hovering above the pitch in Fifa. They lost the inertia between the player and pitch once they implemented the 360 degree movement. The game felt much better when you could only move in 16 directions. It just had a much more satisfying feel to it. Taking the ball past a player felt incredible back in Fifa 09. The Fifa series is still decent but you are totally right imo in saying that it just doesn't capture the feeling of footy quite like PES does. They are massively on the right track again now but they need to sort out the non-gameplay issues, because there's quite a lot of them.

 

[Blueband Brother]

Konami needs to stop acting like misers and invest in the game. Get real motion capture, invest on the technology to attain real ball physics; the licensing thing is difficult but at least do something different like create a very comprehensive and detailed edit mode..make it like a sand box or role playing football game, where folks can create their own reality=- stadiums, teams, leagues among others in great detail. All this will compensate for the licensing issues. But there seem to be laziness in the production and it has been that way since the transition from PS2 to PS3 and they continue to dwell on the false belief that the game play is superior.

The graphics is great but it still looks robotic and unrealistic, albeit fun to play...seemingly.