Petition - No to Cardiff !!

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My my. Always liked Man City, always hated Man Utd.

I am Welsh and proud and also proud to be British, when there is a war we fight together and so on.

Cardiff city have been in the lower divisions for many years and never have i heard of Why are they in the English League as much as now. I think it will be a good thing for banter and i think if Rangers and Celtic in the premier it would be good for the same reason.

Well done for anyone with common sense and there seems to be many on this board, but shame on the few. Good luck in your football future from a great Welsh club to a great English club.
 
couldn't be bothered reading the whole thread so if nobody has already said this then cardiff along with swansea, wrexham, newport, talbot and another club i can't spell have been in the english league system for over a hundred years, longer than a few english clubs. (leeds united being one of them) i don't know whay this is all i can find is historical reasons... if anyone knows please tell me it's doing my head in.

anyway the point is they shouldn't be made to play in the welsh league which tbh is of a lower standard than the 2nd or 3rd tier on non-league. imagine if someone told us we had to go and play in the ryman northern division premier north south west, sod that. putting them back in the welsh system (which is the wrong choice of words as they were never in the welsh system) would kill them, with the possible exception of the 3 that actually are non league.

besides due to fifa ruling against a welsh club representing england they cannot qualify for europe anyway so no danger :)
 
mammyjam said:
couldn't be bothered reading the whole thread so if nobody has already said this then cardiff along with swansea, wrexham, newport, talbot and another club i can't spell have been in the english league system for over a hundred years, longer than a few english clubs. (leeds united being one of them) i don't know whay this is all i can find is historical reasons... if anyone knows please tell me it's doing my head in.

anyway the point is they shouldn't be made to play in the welsh league which tbh is of a lower standard than the 2nd or 3rd tier on non-league. imagine if someone told us we had to go and play in the ryman northern division premier north south west, sod that. putting them back in the welsh system (which is the wrong choice of words as they were never in the welsh system) would kill them, with the possible exception of the 3 that actually are non league.

besides due to fifa ruling against a welsh club representing england they cannot qualify for europe anyway so no danger :)
I might be wrong on this, but I thought the ruling was that the "Welsh" clubs in the English League could qualify thru England(in the say way Derry have qualifed for the ROI), because they can't get in thru the Welsh FA.
 
they are legally allowed to be here, so why not? nothing wrong with them doing so as they have no ties with any domestic competition in the massively inferior Welsh FA domestic system.

besides we should be encouraging grass roots development in the british isles and this does so, it gives welsh lads a chance to become a professional where if Cardiff and Swansea were sent back to the welsh leagues they wouldn't. It's not the same as in scotland as they have a high standard professional league system and besides the amount of times the SNP go on about wanting more independence well fine, keep your SPL and your scottish teams then.

Besides Cardiff is a good city and would be a great weekend out for the Blues if they made it up, and if not we're invading the pleasure beach!
 
DontLookBackInAnger said:
mammyjam said:
couldn't be bothered reading the whole thread so if nobody has already said this then cardiff along with swansea, wrexham, newport, talbot and another club i can't spell have been in the english league system for over a hundred years, longer than a few english clubs. (leeds united being one of them) i don't know whay this is all i can find is historical reasons... if anyone knows please tell me it's doing my head in.

anyway the point is they shouldn't be made to play in the welsh league which tbh is of a lower standard than the 2nd or 3rd tier on non-league. imagine if someone told us we had to go and play in the ryman northern division premier north south west, sod that. putting them back in the welsh system (which is the wrong choice of words as they were never in the welsh system) would kill them, with the possible exception of the 3 that actually are non league.

besides due to fifa ruling against a welsh club representing england they cannot qualify for europe anyway so no danger :)
I might be wrong on this, but I thought the ruling was that the "Welsh" clubs in the English League could qualify thru England(in the say way Derry have qualifed for the ROI), because they can't get in thru the Welsh FA.


a statement from the FA in 2008: “Our position remains unchanged and should Cardiff win the FA Cup this season they would not be chosen as the FA’s nomination for European competition.Cardiff enter into English domestic competitions on this understanding and they are fully aware of the rules and regulations under which they take part.These rules remain the same and there would be no scope for Cardiff, or any of the other Welsh clubs in the English system, to qualify for Europe as England’s representative.”

might have changed since then though...

why does everyone keep saying the SPL is a high quality league? its not its siht they're ranked 16th in europe... i don't think i can name 16 high quality top divisions in europe... but i'll try England, Spain, Italy, France, Germany,Holland erm... Turkey,Russia..... Norway and Sweden? Belgium maybe surely Poland can't be above them? the Urkraine? but they only have 2 decent teams, mind you so do Scotland i suppose... 13 and im all out :-S

The Championship is of a higher Standard than the SPL if all scottish teams played in England Celtic and Rangers would yo-yo between prem and championship and the rest would be league 1/2
 
mammyjam said:
DontLookBackInAnger said:
I might be wrong on this, but I thought the ruling was that the "Welsh" clubs in the English League could qualify thru England(in the say way Derry have qualifed for the ROI), because they can't get in thru the Welsh FA.


a statement from the FA in 2008: “Our position remains unchanged and should Cardiff win the FA Cup this season they would not be chosen as the FA’s nomination for European competition.Cardiff enter into English domestic competitions on this understanding and they are fully aware of the rules and regulations under which they take part.These rules remain the same and there would be no scope for Cardiff, or any of the other Welsh clubs in the English system, to qualify for Europe as England’s representative.”

might have changed since then though...

why does everyone keep saying the SPL is a high quality league? its not its siht they're ranked 16th in europe... i don't think i can name 16 high quality top divisions in europe... but i'll try England, Spain, Italy, France, Germany,Holland erm... Turkey,Russia..... Norway and Sweden? Belgium maybe surely Poland can't be above them? the Urkraine? but they only have 2 decent teams, mind you so do Scotland i suppose... 13 and im all out :-S

The Championship is of a higher Standard than the SPL if all scottish teams played in England Celtic and Rangers would yo-yo between prem and championship and the rest would be league 1/2

Portugal, Romania, Denmark & Russia
 
I wasn't against Cardiff joining the Prem league but today I heard they have protested against the National Anthem being played at the Play Off Final. And their request has ben upheld and won't be played. I'd say fine ok and you won't be playing either, see ya.
 
mancity dan said:
We play in the ENGLISH premier league not a UNITED KINGDOM premier league.

Anyone out there able to make up a petition to stop Cardiff getting into the EPL?

Thanks
No. Nothing wrong with Cardiff getting into the EPL. Can't be arsed reading all the posts as Corrie is on. By the way, and I've posted this before, I actually believe Wales is a principality of England. Don't exactly know what difference that makes, but I'm sure someone will know.
 
CardiffBlueArmy said:
My my. Always liked Man City, always hated Man Utd.

I am Welsh and proud and also proud to be British, when there is a war we fight together and so on.

Cardiff city have been in the lower divisions for many years and never have i heard of Why are they in the English League as much as now. I think it will be a good thing for banter and i think if Rangers and Celtic in the premier it would be good for the same reason.

Well done for anyone with common sense and there seems to be many on this board, but shame on the few. Good luck in your football future from a great Welsh club to a great English club.


You should be proud of your heritage (even if it is Welsh :-) !!) CBA, personally if you earn the right, your deserve to play in the best league in Europe! Although i feel that Blackpool may well spoil the party - either way good luck to ya buddy!
 
BufordUSABlue said:
CardiffBlueArmy said:
My my. Always liked Man City, always hated Man Utd.

I am Welsh and proud and also proud to be British, when there is a war we fight together and so on.

Cardiff city have been in the lower divisions for many years and never have i heard of Why are they in the English League as much as now. I think it will be a good thing for banter and i think if Rangers and Celtic in the premier it would be good for the same reason.

Well done for anyone with common sense and there seems to be many on this board, but shame on the few. Good luck in your football future from a great Welsh club to a great English club.


You should be proud of your heritage (even if it is Welsh :-) !!) CBA, personally if you earn the right, your deserve to play in the best league in Europe! Although i feel that Blackpool may well spoil the party - either way good luck to ya buddy!

Banter is the only reason Rangers or Celtic would be good for the premiership,as for football its doubtful we'll ever know,Cardiff are far better than either
 
I am also Welsh and proud and live in Cardiff. Can't understand the bad feeling from some posters, Cardiff have every right to play in the Premier league so I suppose all that is left to say is, SUCK IT UP!
 
kalouk said:
I am also Welsh and proud and live in Cardiff. Can't understand the bad feeling from some posters, Cardiff have every right to play in the Premier league so I suppose all that is left to say is, SUCK IT UP!

enjoy the championship ;)
 
kalouk said:
I am also Welsh and proud and live in Cardiff. Can't understand the bad feeling from some posters, Cardiff have every right to play in the Premier league so I suppose all that is left to say is, SUCK IT UP!
Suck up the Coca Colaaaaa
 

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