Piers Morgan v Alex Jones

[BlueHammer85]

http://youtu.be/N9efqhGBHZI

Must watch very interesting.

Pro Gun brain washing bullshit that they move the argument away from guns and to crime and burglary

So you don't find our violent crime rates alarming.

Not really, especially as non of those involve maniacs running into schools shooting children... thats the real debate, not my mate Dave who got pushed off his bike and had it stolen.<br /><br />-- Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:28 pm --<br /><br />

I fucking hate piers morgan with a capital F! - Not sure I believe this is real as he is going mad and in such a way i find it hard to believe... However i did chuckle when he mad reference to the phone hacking scandal and morgan decided to just gloss over that!

And so he should of.. the debate was about guns.. Morgan handled that interview very well.

 

[Josh Blue]

Pro Gun brain washing bullshit that they move the argument away from guns and to crime and burglary

Also what the Yanks deem violent crime compared to us is different. Comparing apples and oranges. Then the reporting of crime skews figures.

We may well have a few more punch-ups because we don't tend to shoot one another.

The key point in that video is that Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica have a far worse gun problem than the US despite far fewer guns - the US was ranked 28th for gun crime despite having by far the most guns percentage wise.

Guns are not the problem. It's people.

Just to clarify my own view, I would not want our gun ban lifted over here but I do not think that guns should be taken away from law-abiding American citizens who use them to protect their property and families.

The stats are pretty conclusive.

For once I agree with you. It is the people and the society not the weapon.

 

[Johnsonontheleft]

Pro Gun brain washing bullshit that they move the argument away from guns and to crime and burglary

No-one with half a brain could be fooled by that. Ok, by those numbers Britain is five times more violent than the US - I call bullshit on that because this country probably classes a minor scratch on the arm as a violent crime whereas it's probably a stabbing or gunshot wound in the US, but let's assume those numbers are correct. Right, Britain five times more violent, but has 3.5 times fewer murders. Surely we should have five times as many murders, or to Americanise that, we should have 17.5 times (5 times more violent x 3.5 to catch up with the US murder rate) the murders we currently do have. The gun was invented to be a more efficient instrument of death, people who argue it doesn't make it easier to kill someone, and thus won't result in more deaths, are fucking lunatics like Alex Jones. Now, guns might not be the only reason for that, although I'd say they play a big role, but people who say they play no role whatsoever, are just truth deniers.

By your reasoning above the US should be firmly planted at number 1 for gun murder rate in the world given it's gun ownership rate is the highest in the world BY FAR, but as the guy points out there are 27 countries that have a higher gun murder rate despite far fewer guns proportionately.

This combined with the stat that 74% of America's gun murders are gang related make it clear to me that it's the type of people, not the guns which are causing this problem.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Also what the Yanks deem violent crime compared to us is different. Comparing apples and oranges. Then the reporting of crime skews figures.

We may well have a few more punch-ups because we don't tend to shoot one another.

The key point in that video is that Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica have a far worse gun problem than the US despite far fewer guns - the US was ranked 28th for gun crime despite having by far the most guns percentage wise.

Guns are not the problem. It's people.

Just to clarify my own view, I would not want our gun ban lifted over here but I do not think that guns should be taken away from law-abiding American citizens who use them to protect their property and families.

The stats are pretty conclusive.

For once I agree with you. It is the people and the society not the weapon.

So the world would be a safer place if everybody had a gun ?

 

[Pigeonho]

Piers played him like a harp. 'This is the man who wants me deported from America', that sentence coming after the fat **** had made a complete fool of himself.

 

[mancunial]

Make Alex city's pr spokesman, have him hovering around the pressmen at the press conference, that would be interesting

 

[Johnsonontheleft]

The key point in that video is that Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica have a far worse gun problem than the US despite far fewer guns - the US was ranked 28th for gun crime despite having by far the most guns percentage wise.

Guns are not the problem. It's people.

Just to clarify my own view, I would not want our gun ban lifted over here but I do not think that guns should be taken away from law-abiding American citizens who use them to protect their property and families.

The stats are pretty conclusive.

For once I agree with you. It is the people and the society not the weapon.

So the world would be a safer place if everybody had a gun ?

No of course not. But to take guns off law abiding American citizens would be a stupid stupid move as the facts show that the guns are not the problem, it's the type of people and the society.

 

[Blue Hefner]

For once I agree with you. It is the people and the society not the weapon.

So the world would be a safer place if everybody had a gun ?

No of course not. But to take guns off law abiding American citizens would be a stupid stupid move as the facts show that the guns are not the problem, it's the type of people and the society.

And accessibility. If society breaks down but no-one has a gun then no-one can get shot!

I know that's an over simplification.

Criminals will always have guns, there isn't a lot society can do about that but the general public being armed to 'protect' themselves isn't the answer. Criminals have guns over here but there aren't home invasions every other day against the unarmed public and I bet that would be unlikely to happen over there either

 

[spanish blue]

For once I agree with you. It is the people and the society not the weapon.

So the world would be a safer place if everybody had a gun ?

No of course not. But to take guns off law abiding American citizens would be a stupid stupid move as the facts show that the guns are not the problem, it's the type of people and the society.

This. Why is it we never see the other side of gun ownership, like the 70 year old guy sat in a crowded cafe minding his own business when 3 armed men charged in and started pointing their guns at all the customers, he pulled out his little hand gun and shot one in the leg at which point they ran off probably saving 10s of lives or the of duty police woman in a mall who when an armed gun men started shooting into the crowd got out her privately owned hand gun, shot him in the arm and saved maybe 100s of lives, don't see that in the news do you.

 

[bluekat]

I wonder how Paxman would have handled that interview?

I suspect he would have just nutted the fat yank after about five seconds and walked off shaking his head.