PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Metalartin]

Look how giddy the plastic dipper is. It’s actually a balanced video, although not once did any of them suggest we may be innocent.

I wouldn't exactly call that balanced. I'd say it was just not as over the top, as it normally is.

"They didn't prove their innocence, it was just time-barred", "They don't have the worldwide reach for their sponsorship values", "Pep only got aggressive because he knows", "They can't fill their stadium", "They are going to get CGI fans in next". All still nonsense.

They didn't even have a City fan on there, unless that was edited out. It's basically an echo chamber, exchanging unfounded myths and misinformation that they love the sound of because it conforms their biases. What it also is, is a table full of sweaty blokes, smelling their own farts and self gratifying.

True Geordie knows he's a hypocrite, not just on the Newcastle ownership(the "loophole" Saudi found to buy the club) and how he's loving that. Also, because of recent events, he knows full well how people can use the court of public opinion(even if it's nonsense, get people riled up enough and you can get a reaction) against you and cause some real damage. If you don't know the full story, it doesn't matter too much. Just take notice of who's not there on the Kick-Off anymore(sponsors and the usual guests who have gone elsewhere to start their own).

 

[Sir peace frog]

I'm sure, but even so, making incredibly serious charges that you are almost certain to lose is bizarre behaviour even if the redshirts are baying for it.

the premier league has nothing to lose , they think we are guilty,when we are acquitted that's the end of it(until the next one),we wont sue ,because is there anything to sue for

 

[KS55]

You make a good point. The narrative is set if you say things often enough regardless of what the truth is. The CAS judgment remains a trove of positive and negative detail of the case, City's defence and the result. It is very illuminating especially in respect of City's own submissions against the severe allegations made there but people don't seem to take the time to actually read it.

The whole media stance has been disgraceful, full of lies and inaccuracies which City did nothing to combat and so are now widely believed.
Some examples:
—Mat Syed wrote two articles in the Times based on the idea that the emails proved our guilt. Of course, he had never even seen the emails, let alone understood their lack of cogency.
—The Guardian carried an article which concluded with: “City were cleared on a technicality by a corruptible body.”
—The Guardian maintained that City had regular injections of funding from the AbuDhabi wealth fund, no evidence sited of course.
—Henry Winter wrote that “although City have been cleared, they are not innocent.” He wrote this before CAS had published their reasoning.
— The clearance only because of the time barred items was repeated ad infinitum across the whole media.
And so on and so forth.
This is why I posted that this time round we must take action against anyone blithely ignoring the verdict and the ratio decidendI.

 

[KS55]

They would say they first learned of potential "fraud" in 2018. So had until 2024 to charge ie everything is in time.

In any case, we do not want items to be declared out of time as that just leaves them hanging.

 

[havefaith]

The other crucial point is whether Pinto was a Robin Hood whistle-blower, or merely a hacker & thief who sold his ill-gotten gains on.

Did Pinto REALLY hack City because he could?

Did Pinto hack City because he was truly concerned about our criminality? If so, why?

OR, did he do it purely for monetary gain? If so, did he hack City to sell-on the data, or was he engaged by a third party to get dirt on City?

Theres a lot more to Pinto's hack than just City, found this article the other day having had similar thoughts. Worth a read.

How Football Leaks Is Exposing Corruption in European Soccer

While Rui Pinto sits in jail, his revelations are bringing down the sport’s most famous teams and players.

www.newyorker.com

 

[Paladin]

Was there not at some point previously a non match official in the var box, someone associated with PL who shouldn’t have been there. I may be wrong but it does suggest 3rd party involvement in var is possible.

VAR shambles as chiefs with NO football experience 'overruling referees at Stockley Park'

VAR commanders with no authority in the Premier League are astonishingly over-ruling referees, it has been claimed. Former ref Mark Halsey has learned VAR Andy Madley was told by commander Adam Car…

www.the-sun.com

 

[dario2739]

Don’t know if anyone has said but I used to have a shred of respect for True Geordie, biggest game of the season Arsenal vs City and he has no city fan on. Show has gone down hill for various reasons… brings on Craig from Anfield “AGENDA”. No city fan to talk about charges while, they talk with absolutely no idea what they’re on about, this well I’m not gonna say what Craig is I think we all know, abysmal.

You lost me after "I used to have a shred of respect for True Geordie"! ...WHY, he's an absolute cnut!

 

[KS55]

What can we be charged with next season? Keep the players focused and ready for a fight :-)

Oh that’s easy: You are charged with being a football club whilst being owned by Muslims.

 

[dario2739]

Don’t really understand how anyone could be in the ref’s ear apart from the match officials and Stockley Park. And could this voice have been dubbed on afterwards to make the recording “interesting”?

It's easy.... have you never been on a group call in a meeting for example?
The ref's earpiece obviously works on some frequency, you could have multiple people connected and they don't have to be in the same room.

 

[Shads]

This - as far as I know - has never been answered.
Let's face it, if he wanted to hack a club for the exposure or for blackmail/monetary gain, why City? Surely the G14 clubs would have been a better target?
He's obviously been hired by somebody to target us specifically - I don't believe it was random... we need to find out who!

Unfortunately it is irrelevant as far as our case goes. The emails are in the public arena, however they got there…