halfcenturyup
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Unless stated by Manchester City or if I were personally in attendance, no I can't state certain bits as factually said. However, when you look at the timeline & piece it all together, like a jigsaw it begins to create a picture based on stated facts, which is what I've done.
For instance, UEFA clearly state the Etisalat & Etihad deals were investigated for fair value & to see if they were related companies. During those 2014 investigations, everything was checked & UEFA had to concede our deals were fair market value, & neither Etihad or Etisalat were related companies.
Are you thinking as part of these investigations, UEFA didn't check where the sponsorship money actually came from?
Connecting the dots, UEFA made it clear that their 2018 probe was directly related to the Der Spiegel revelations, & the major point they pulled out was the one line in the email where a City finance guy mentioned "Perhaps we could get his Highness (or a moniker to that effect) to pay this so we have it in the bank".
Our audited accounts haven't been amended, so must evidently show the two £15m payments in 2012/13 from Jaber Mohammed, because in 2018 UEFA didn't flag this as an issue. Their new issue was did ADUG pay Mohammed to pay City?
Opposition fans & the media have mostly taken UEFA & the PL's word for everything & painted City as FFP cheats & financial crooks.
As a City fan I've tried to get all the info I could, to piece it together so it made sense to me, & I've shared those thoughts.
The elements are all factual events, which I've put together to create the clearest picture I can to make sense of this FFP nonsense.
If you see things differently? Well that's why we're all here to discuss & share our knowledge & views, of which you'll hopefully share with me too. )(
Fair enough, we are all trying to make sense out of what is happening. I have done the same with my theory as to why the alleged breaches cover so many issues and so many years taking into account what we know from CAS and what has been communicated by the club and by the PL. It may all be bollocks. We will see.
But on your 2014 point, I very much doubt UEFA looked at the funding of sponsorships at that time. They would have needed access to the accounting records and they had no need to ask for that to conclude on third party / fair value. 2014 was just a review of the accounts afaik, and not an accounting investigation. I am pretty sure UEFA would have first learned about the Etisalat funding in the 2018 DS articles.