PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[BlueDejong]

haha

 

[oldius]

Same as what I think. anything said by our owners will fall of deaf ears and turned into something more inflammatory probably. I think they've learnt just say nothing and let facts speak. Not sure its the best way and I do wish they would come out and show some opposition to this bullshit, but I think we've all experienced it, you say anything in our defence you will get laughed at. Pointless.

Absolutely. The press now quote Erling on 900k a week, 500k more than anyone else. It has become fact in the eyes of United and Liverpool fans because they know that his fee makes him an absolute bargain, so they find a way that comforts them that they cannot compete financially, despite all evidence. Any fact becomes a myth fuelled laugh about fake sponsors and under the counter payments. The CAS verdict is ONLY because we dragged it out until it was time barred. Heck, they even believe their Emptihad narrative despite attendance data.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

The same nonces in the press that are making such a thing of the significance of the number of charges are the same cunts who will play up the significance of a single technical breach of the non-cooperation charge, whilst simultaneously ignoring the dismissal of the remaining charges that they presented as being so significant.

They will do whatever it takes to shift their narrative to suit their agenda.

The Nonce Society is extremely offended at being linked to football journalists.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

The club's messaging has been incredibly poor on this.

They should have been pushing out via their sources in the press that this is only 4 or 5 incidents that are generating dozens of charges each because of the time period covered.

They should be pushing much harder the idea that the non-compliance is to do with the PL changing the rules on what clubs have to submit in 2021.

They should be briefing people that the club wants this over and done with ASAP.


It's absolutely incredible to me that no one at City seems to have learned from the UEFA saga that their strategy of saying nothing just allows the narrative to be completely taken over by the people shouting loudest on the other side.

Saying nothing isn’t a strategy it goes with “turning the other cheek” or just hoping it all blows over, what that does is allows the attack hypocritical media to take over.
We look guilty because we say nothing and welcome the media making the noise to come and whip us.
The truth doesn’t matter to them just restoration of the way it used to be.
Us in the third tier and them raking in all the profits, well I will be supporting us if we are thrown out.

 

[Coatigan]

The club's messaging has been incredibly poor on this.

They should have been pushing out via their sources in the press that this is only 4 or 5 incidents that are generating dozens of charges each because of the time period covered.

They should be pushing much harder the idea that the non-compliance is to do with the PL changing the rules on what clubs have to submit in 2021.

They should be briefing people that the club wants this over and done with ASAP.


It's absolutely incredible to me that no one at City seems to have learned from the UEFA saga that their strategy of saying nothing just allows the narrative to be completely taken over by the people shouting loudest on the other side.

Not sure I agree with any of that.

We have seen time and time again the club don't conduct big issues through a proxy media war. We are not bloody Barcelona. And it has worked so far, with uefa, cas, the transfer market etc.

I personally don't need the club to tell me any of that, to not be concerned it isn't happening. The shareholders likely know what's going on too.


That said, there was a rare article a few days ago that reported the club challenging a number of things in the process, including the head of the panel being an Arsenal fan. Which as far as I can see nobody here mentioned or engaged with. They will be doing lots in the background. Just not letting it become a distraction or the focus of media discussions.

 

[Coatigan]

Nail on head.

As it stands we are doing nothing to help our cause,while allowing the issue to snowball through ignorance and lies.

It has snowballed as far as it can go though. Has there been anything new, since the first round of mud throwing? No. They will all continue to repeat the charges and the number and the investigation until it is concluded. Nothing the club say can change that. It can only however make it the main topic and bring it to the foreground, as opposed to it being an unpleasant footnote to the success on the pitch.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

Absolutely. The press now quote Erling on 900k a week, 500k more than anyone else. It has become fact in the eyes of United and Liverpool fans because they know that his fee makes him an absolute bargain, so they find a way that comforts them that they cannot compete financially, despite all evidence. Any fact becomes a myth fuelled laugh about fake sponsors and under the counter payments. The CAS verdict is ONLY because we dragged it out until it was time barred. Heck, they even believe their Emptihad narrative despite attendance data.

Social media is easy to manipulate people with algorithms of things they want to see rather than the truth. Which is why social media channels like Sports Joe, Sports Bible etc pump out the shite and lies about the club. This leaves to Dave The Dipper from Kent believing that City have been running some money laundering cartel and killing orphans. Misinformation and controlling the narrative is why brexit happened and Donald Trump became president of the United States. Repeat the lie enough times despite of the evidence to contradict it, stupid people will believe it.

 

[Kirkstall Blue]

Agreed. There is no way the club would brief that we are disputing a KC's integrity because of the team he supports. The club may well be raising independence issues, and the KC's Arsenal connections or his previous, and his continuing, connections to the PL may be one, but it would be monumentally stupid to allow a briefing about an appeal turn into a tribal issue that only an incredibly stupid press/public could concoct.

That leak was done to damage the club again IMO at a moment of importance, not help us. Maybe not the PL, but someone involved in the PL process. Now I wonder who that may have been?

There is a strong element of racism in all of this, remember how bad it was when we were taken over. “Arab money“ is a common swear word now amongst the “Twitterarti“
We scraped in before the door was closed for good they don’t like it.

 

[bluenova]

Saying nothing isn’t a strategy it goes with “turning the other cheek” or just hoping it all blows over, what that does is allows the attack hypocritical media to take over.
We look guilty because we say nothing and welcome the media making the noise to come and whip us.
The truth doesn’t matter to them just restoration of the way it used to be.
Us in the third tier and them raking in all the profits, well I will be supporting us if we are thrown out.

It absolutely is a strategy, both for legal issues, and in terms of PR.

The club will be challenging what they can behind the scenes, but they certainly won't want to be constantly commenting in public.

 

[Oldham Exile]

I'm pretty sure the club will have thought through every step they are taking. Although coming out with all guns blazing might be what the fans want, there is a lot to be said for keeping your powder dry. Any attempt to explain publicly the basis of our innocence could easily prejudice the case. Moreover, any public defence is unlikely to be accepted as legitimate by the media, so why bother.

As a City fan my shoulders have been broadened over the years. Let them say what they want.

I agree

As a CITY fan I want us to come out and take the fight to these red shirt fuckers - and to smash the PL case against us so that everyone can see that it has been fabricated and that PL FFP has only ever been a method of protectionism for certain clubs

I would like to see multiple court case where certain 'journalists' are made bankrupt etc.....

But,

I then think that the people that own us are clearly very savvy and plan and act to achieve strategic outcomes rather than just short-term satisfaction

I also consider the PL - it is their competition after all - and perhaps it would be a bad play to force their executives to go 100% against us because our actions make them consider that we are an existential threat. I wonder (and worry) - just what would be our recourse if they were to ban us from their competition? I doubt that we would get the required votes from other clubs to overturn that.

etc.

I think that we just have to trust in our leaders and back their playing of this - even if it is frustrating at times

And meanwhile enjoy - Wembley, Istanbul, the parade and the ongoing ride