Dirty Harry
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My reservations about that have been long standing mate.
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PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules
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This is my concernYes, the idea is basically that you don't get a right of appeal to the courts if the decision is a bit contentious or marginal or you don't like it or think you weren't treated well but the tribunal has basically acted professionally. But if you get properly fucked over and are able to justify that to a court, protection is there.
The latter is very rare as generally tribunals covered by the Act comprise professional people who take their duties seriously. But there does seem to be a sense in football that those with regulatory power can act as they wish without being bound by legal principles that apply in other industries, so I suppose you never know.
Wasn’t a similar comment made by the Bosman judge saying something along the lines of ‘football is not above EU law’?
Yet the football authorities still act as if they are. I’d imagine it’s all down to trying to protect one’s assets, so I’m not expecting a fair fight
Retired lawyerly person here, with less contacts than one of Tolmie's fingernails, but I do have a little something. Sent a cheeky email to the boss of a firm I used to do some work for and got the response that he'd been told that at least two substantial companies had turned down the opportunity to 'assist' the Premier League.
Oh, and because lawyers like money, I can only suppose the issue was reputation risk.Retired lawyerly person here, with less contacts than one of Tolmie's fingernails, but I do have a little something. Sent a cheeky email to the boss of a firm I used to do some work for and got the response that he'd been told that at least two substantial companies had turned down the opportunity to 'assist' the Premier League.
HelloCity
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Thanks for explaining that clearly. It's reassuring to hear that they couldn't just impose some arbitrary penalty (say relegation to League Two) and that we'd just have to accept it with no legal recourse whatsoever.
You’re not sounding too confident about the outcome, Ric! :)
We will get a fine for non cooperation again and the story will go on and on and on unfortunately.
Certain clubs will never let this die.
I can comfortably live with that, if that turns out to be the case.
The non-cooperation thing is a bit of an easy joke. Such an out. I've accused you of running my pet rabbit over. You told me to go fuck myself and stop being a dick. Turns out, you didn't run my pet rabbit over, but you Are guilty of being a bit rude to me.
As a charge, it seems to be there to add more weight if found guilty. And leave some weight, if found innocent.
What people forget, or ignore, is that the charge itself was reduceds by CAS to a third of the penalty imposed. And it acknowledged we had good reason to stop being cooperative, the media leaks by Uefa. Completely lost when we are described as 'being found guilty, with the ban overturned'.
I am stealing that analogyI can comfortably live with that, if that turns out to be the case.
The non-cooperation thing is a bit of an easy joke. Such an out. I've accused you of running my pet rabbit over. You told me to go fuck myself and stop being a dick. Turns out, you didn't run my pet rabbit over, but you Are guilty of being a bit rude to me.
As a charge, it seems to be there to add more weight if found guilty. And leave some weight, if found innocent.
What people forget, or ignore, is that the charge itself was reduceds by CAS to a third of the penalty imposed. And it acknowledged we had good reason to stop being cooperative, the media leaks by Uefa. Completely lost when we are described as 'being found guilty, with the ban overturned'.
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Same here, I can live with that, in fact its preferable.We will get a fine for non cooperation again and the story will go on and on and on unfortunately.
Certain clubs will never let this die.
They're gonna call us cheats no matter what, no matter. We might as well have the fine which makes them even more distraught.
I can comfortably live with that, if that turns out to be the case.
The non-cooperation thing is a bit of an easy joke. Such an out. I've accused you of running my pet rabbit over. You told me to go fuck myself and stop being a dick. Turns out, you didn't run my pet rabbit over, but you Are guilty of being a bit rude to me.
As a charge, it seems to be there to add more weight if found guilty. And leave some weight, if found innocent.
What people forget, or ignore, is that the charge itself was reduceds by CAS to a third of the penalty imposed. And it acknowledged we had good reason to stop being cooperative, the media leaks by Uefa. Completely lost when we are described as 'being found guilty, with the ban overturned'.
It is indeed there own out and that’s why it’s there.
cheekybids
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That's why I asked the question tbh. Non-legal people need to be taken through this step by step so they can understand the implications before they freak out completely.
It’s also important how differently legal / non legal use language. It’s probably how the media are able to manipulate thinking when it’s written in b&w.