PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[BrianW]

As I said in a previous post, I cannot see how City can have a fair hearing when every Tom, Dick and Harriet across the media has already pronounced us guilty and passed sentence.

There is a reason why, in proper trials before the King's courts, the media are not allowed to do this. Imagine being accused of (say) murder and every paper, every online source spent months saying how guilty you are and how you deserve 50 years inside. You would not stand a chance before a jury, which is why this sort of trial by media is illegal and called contempt of court. The judge would throw the case out of court if such a prejudice arose.

The process is a fucking disgrace.

 

[BringBackSwales]

What about that time you said I was ‘one of’ the smartest posters on Bluemoon?

I suppose you were technically correct!

Only one of?

 

[oakiecokie]

..... to safety critical systems where the worst case scenarios are treated with the highest priority. If we face a deduction of say 12 points per season, then in each of those years we would have used an unfair sporting advantage to exclude other clubs from ECL revenue, ie instead of Europa revenue. That would be what 30M x 10 ?. There is NO limit on financial sanctions. Yes we signed up to rules but are those rules being applied fairly, given we actually won at CAS ?

Stop yer flapping you wet fanny.

 

[bluemc]

I'm happy to be proven wrong, but has the mayor of Manchester been as vocal at any point regarding City's treatment?

I get that he's a Scouser but a hugely successful football team in the city which he governs over is a big thing (massive, some might say).

 

[Paladin]

I think your missing the point many legal and accounting experts on here have said several times that the accusations are in affect criminal though the Premier League have not explicitly stated as such I also haven’t seen any denials. This goes well beyond breaking the rules of the club. What’s more to prove breaking the rules they would probably need access to information they do not have from the other end I.e Etihad or to reinterpret the law around what is correct account practice e.g fair value and related party

So it's going to be difficult to prove, so we'll be likely to win. Sounds ok to me.

 

[Paladin]

I get your point, yes it's a members club but surely they cant find you guilty of fraud, a criminal offence.

The people and companies the pl are saying have fiddling the books if found guilty are big players on the world stage. I don't think they would sit back and allow the pl American owners to get away with it.

The commission isn't set up to find us guilty of fraud. We only stand accused of breaking PL rules. That's the only thing commission will look at.

 

[Fordyboy46]

As I said in a previous post, I cannot see how City can have a fair hearing when every Tom, Dick and Harriet across the media has already pronounced us guilty and passed sentence.

There is a reason why, in proper trials before the King's courts, the media are not allowed to do this. Imagine being accused of (say) murder and every paper, every online source spent months saying how guilty you are and how you deserve 50 years inside. You would not stand a chance before a jury, which is why this sort of trial by media is illegal and called contempt of court. The judge would throw the case out of court if such a prejudice arose.

The process is a fucking disgrace.

Can u imagine the shit being written when our case is about to be heard, it will be off the scale. Back page headlines with GUILTY splashed all over them, pleading with the prem league to charge us etc etc.
They made their minds up last February when the story broke

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The commission isn't set up to find us guilty of fraud. We only stand accused of breaking PL rules. That's the only thing commission will look at.

Fraud is intrinsic to the substantive charges though. There is no other way to better characterise that part of what is alleged than it being fraudulent.

 

[Paladin]

Andy Burnham has weighed in now, claiming the PL are guilty of an abuse of process re: Everton, for, in layman's terms, moving the goalposts half way through the investigation.

The outcome of this (Everton and City) could see the PL undermined and discredited, rather than any club punished - a PL own goal.

I partially heard this. I can't see how they moved the goalposts for Everton. The rules were in place well before Everton got into trouble, and the PL gave them plenty of warnings that they were in danger of breaching them.

 

[dadnlad]

I partially heard this. I can't see how they moved the goalposts for Everton. The rules were in place well before Everton got into trouble, and the PL gave them plenty of warnings that they were in danger of breaching them.

think he's talking about masters magic point deduction formula