PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

bridgeno1 said:
There still seems to be a misconception of what City have been accused of and how that is different to Everton. To recap, Everton were found guilty of breaking rules and were punished. City aren't accused of breaking rules, they are accused of circumventing processes to get around the rules. So what will be looked at is if City got an unfair advantage by using loopholes to comply with rules, that they basically 'massaged' these processes so they could comply. So that will take ages as it isn't a cut and dry 'Yes/No' Did City break known rules decision. Each charge would need to be examined to see if it was in the spirit of the rules, if there is a precedent for the way City applied their mechanisms and so on.

The way to look at it would be imagine doping in athletics and Everton and City are athletes. Everton have had a sample show that there are traces of nandrolone in their system. They've admitted it. They've got their penalty.

City have taken the same test and it is clear. However some investigators have said City have been eating an absolute shit ton of Wakame seaweed which has a naturally occurring source of a performance enhancing substance and City are saying they ate it because it contained antioxidants which have health advantages. They also say they've been up front about eating this seaweed for years and years and that they did this because it gave them a health improvement but in a natural, legally compliant way. They also say that they used an extensive network of medical experts to design this nutrition program based on seaweed, that all of the details of this program are readily available to inspect and that these medical experts have guaranteed that the program was fully legal even though it gave them an advantage.

Prosecutors are saying that City actually ate the seaweed for the performance enhancement substance but using the antioxidant argument to remain compliant. They'll therefore investigate in detail all the different medical programs to try and ascertain the intention behind the scheme. Problem with this is it is one man's word against the other.

What then will happen is the PL will say City are guilty, here's a 30 point penalty. City will then say 'fuck you, we took advice that our schemes were totally legal, you've know about these for fucking ages, we are suing you right back'. City will then unleash the legal forces of darkness and this will go on for absolute fucking AGES.

By the time it is concluded one way or the other the following things will have happened;

- Pep will have left long ago
- City will have won numerous additional trophies in this time
- Spurs will still have won fuck all
- United will once again be 'back this time, honest'

If anyone thinks this will be wrapped up within a couple of years they are sorely mistaken.
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Great analogy. Is that an actual thing that seaweed and the rules about amounts of certain food in athletics
 
Paladin said:
The commission in the Everton case said that the failures by Everton are so serious that a sporting sanction must be made. Everton argued that a financial sanction should apply and would be fairer.

The commission said that if they applied only a fine, the owners would dip into their pockets, pay off the fine, and Everton would be in no worse a situation. But Everton benefited from their non-compliance by having a stronger team, getting more points in the season, and avoiding relegation. The penalty needs to include a real deterrent, otherwise clubs in future would just ignore the rules in order to avoid relegation. Hence the hefty points deduction.

In future, the PL wants cases to be judged and punished in the season in which they occur. This is an honourable objective, but as the commission pointed out in the Everton case, this objective should not be allowed to hamper a club on its defence against charges.
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How they can prove Everton benefitted and did better with the players they signed compared to them not buying is pure speculation.
By that logic the Rags should have completed the Treble.

Money obsessed the PL and make it up as they go along.
 
wolviedinho said:
This comment was made by Soriano in the FT during the uefa case.

It can easily apply to the league:

“The owner has not put money in this club that has not been properly declared,” said Mr Soriano. “We are a sustainable football club, we are profitable, we don’t have debt, our accounts have been scrutinised many times by auditors, by regulators, by investors and this is perfectly clear.”

Anyone doubting the club just needs to read what Soriano, Khaldoon said at the time. The case now with the league is pretty much the same…illegal owner funding!

There is no leak nor smoking gun. The financials can’t be interpreted any other way but correct and accurate.

If anything the Cas Verdict has given the club a dry run. We know how these tribunals operate now.

We can easily argue each point the premier tries to push on us with the evidence presented at CAS. How can you find the club guilty when CAS could find no evidence?

It’s going to be a beautiful day/week/month when the case falls apart and the media is foaming at the mouth. Might need to book a holiday once the all clear comes in.
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Totally agree in the main but there are other charges not covered by CAS. However, the ones that were should just be a case of presenting the same evidence again. If beggars belief that the PL have included the stuff that CAS cleared us of and are having another go at trying to nail us.
 
Sk@mcfc said:
Just received from fellow blue anyone else listen to it ?
Listening to Cheesamans last night ,Forever Blue, he had a guest Mike McClean,
He said he has inside knowledge than City's barristers have a recording whereby the Premier league board members quoted " We cannot have Man City winning the league for a forth time on the trot"
He quotes the Premier League board are totally corrupt !!
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whats the time stamp?

Latest Forever blue's not got any reverence?
 
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Sk@mcfc said:
Just received from fellow blue anyone else listen to it ?
Listening to Cheesamans last night ,Forever Blue, he had a guest Mike McClean,
He said he has inside knowledge than City's barristers have a recording whereby the Premier league board members quoted " We cannot have Man City winning the league for a forth time on the trot"
He quotes the Premier League board are totally corrupt !!
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If it was said in an official meeting it would be quite explosive but said in an off the cuff manner I’m not so sure, context is important, but if something like that got out it could badly damage the brand’s worldwide reputation and earnings
 
Ducado said:
If it was said in an official meeting it would be quite explosive but said in an off the cuff manner I’m not so sure, context is important, but if something like that got out it could badly damage the brand’s worldwide reputation and earnings
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Maybe we should make it "get out".....
...just a thought...

With so much mis/disinformation about us out there, I say "What's good for the goose..."
 
Sk@mcfc said:
Just received from fellow blue anyone else listen to it ?
Listening to Cheesamans last night ,Forever Blue, he had a guest Mike McClean,
He said he has inside knowledge than City's barristers have a recording whereby the Premier league board members quoted " We cannot have Man City winning the league for a forth time on the trot"
He quotes the Premier League board are totally corrupt !!
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Who’s Mike McLean? Not doubting he said it but it’s far from the first time someone has said we’re going to blow the pl/uefa/pigmob/dippers/peter walton out of the water (there was supposed to be a recording of var saying “just allow it” at the swamp last year. Not doubting the post but this mike McLean is in contact with our barristers? Hmm


Edit just googled - is this Mike squeaky McLean, the stand up comedian? Not getting my hopes up on this one personally
 
M18CTID said:
Totally agree in the main but there are other charges not covered by CAS. However, the ones that were should just be a case of presenting the same evidence again. If beggars belief that the PL have included the stuff that CAS cleared us of and are having another go at trying to nail us.
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Isn’t there a different statute of limitations between uefa/cas and this pl kangaroo court?
 
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