PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[mancboy]

Think of it like this. Obviously, City's primary argument will be that the audited accounts show that everything's been done legitimately and that should be regarded as conclusive. However, you can't guarantee that they'll accept that argument - one member of the CAS panel didn't, for instance - so you have to be meticulous in devising as many reasons as possible to chip away at the other side's evidence to give the IC as many reasons as possible to doubt the PL's case.

It's highly unlikely that any of the PL's emails that are produced will be blatantly incriminating in terms of member clubs and PL executives conspoiring to screw us over. However, I'd argue that any contact on the subject is inappropriate and I suspect there will be exchanges that allow City's lawyers to portray the PL as coming under pressure from influential clubs to act against City. That can be used to create further doubt in the mind of the Panel.

also lack thereof would be damning also, we got done on the strength of 6 emails out of hundreds of thousands so even if the pl execs supply emails and txts it would be a statistical improbability to say that none of them allude to at least some level of collusion to stop city so they are damned if they and damned if they dont.

 

[mancboy]

Can't you just overwrite everything on the disks?

Yeah you could but by doing that you open yourself up as to why you have done that as the only reason you would overwrite data is to the save the cost of buying more storage or to conceal existing data and i dont think anyone is going to buy that they did to save the cost.

 

[Paladin]

The Times article says that senior PL officials have had to hand over emails. Which suggests that the request was made some time ago

So The Times look to have a cache of leaked information that they are slowly drip feeding into the public domain in order to create a sustained negative narrative against us.

 

[mancboy]

So The Times look to have a cache of leaked information that they are slowly drip feeding into the public domain in order to create a sustained negative narrative against us.

Im not sure how them being required to hand over texts and emails is negative towards us, surely the pl is the bastion of moral and legal integrity and would have absolutely no problem handing them over, i mean they must be right because they charged us and we are guilty because they say so, so it stands to reason that everything they do is on the straight and narrow right?

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Agreed but their lawyers would have emphasised the importance of complying and handing over everything relevant.

Yes, but just because we’re only hearing this in the media now, doesn’t mean that both sides didn’t know this was coming from a long way out.

 

[Maxblue]

Disclosure in any legal case is normal - determining what that disclosure should consist of is open to legal wranglings. Going back 15 years it’s highly likely there will be correspondence the PL, its execs and those corresponding in any email chain will find embarrassing and damaging. Less so recent stuff where caution will be exercised but the historic stuff will be very interesting. Recent public enquiries show how this can be framed. Disclosure of this nature makes it even probable a resolution will be found between the two parties to protect both side’s reputation and credibility.

 

[cheekybids]

So The Times look to have a cache of leaked information that they are slowly drip feeding into the public domain in order to create a sustained negative narrative against us.

If you look at the articles right up to the point Prince Harry won his case it was drip drip of lies & attacking article. It’s like they make it as ugly as possible to stop anyone else wanting to take them on. I want the prem league, cartel & media to all get what’s coming.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

we all like a good conspiracy theory on here

That’s what they want you to believe.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Disclosure in any legal case is normal - determining what that disclosure should consist of is open to legal wranglings. Going back 15 years it’s highly likely there will be correspondence the PL, its execs and those corresponding in any email chain will find embarrassing and damaging. Less so recent stuff where caution will be exercised but the historic stuff will be very interesting. Recent public enquiries show how this can be framed. Disclosure of this nature makes it even probable a resolution will be found between the two parties to protect both side’s reputation and credibility.

You mean, we get off on a technicality again?
Still guilty in the media?

Hard to see that being acceptable.

 

[Dannyblue52]

What about the non-cooperation charges ? If we were able to show that the PLs enquiry was not fair and independent and was being driven by certain clubs or that it was being directed by individuals with links (I was going to say "associated with") a party of clubs acting in concert, and in their own interests, I think that would strike to the heart of the process and, at the very least, provide mitigation.

There are rules that the PL clubs have to act in good faith to each other. This would show who broke them and they would have to be charged. I would love to see that happen.