PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[chaddblue]

That isn't what I meant.

Whether you believe them innocent or not, do you really think the PL is not just going to find them guilty regardless and then have us go to an appeal court and then tarnish us anyway, like I suggested in the other post?

We’re already tarnished. Mission accomplished

 

[I'm no cynic but...]

I am not a lawyer, but if we face a kangaroo court hell bent on our destruction, irrespective of the evidence we present, surely the KCs responsible could be reported to the ombudsman for malpractice? Surely that's enough of a reason for them to behave themselves rather than cave in to the demands of the PL. Just a thought.

The KC would be expected to stick to the evidence and to seek the truth at all times, but never forget there is a prosecution and a defence and their questioning is aimed at winning a case for those who are paying them. Therefore they will try to lead the proceedings to the kind of questioning that will attain the required results for their clients. And the better ones are often so good at it that an easier lifestyle beckons in the Commons which is full of them.

 

[waspish]

It's going to be a long wait to find out. I am hoping the tribunal once it actually starts realise very quickly that these charges are a load of bollocks. Let's hope we have our house in order.

Always thought it would take years because they have to go through the million of documents because they getting paid to find something wrong!

 

[Iassel]

I am not a lawyer, but if we face a kangaroo court hell bent on our destruction, irrespective of the evidence we present, surely the KCs responsible could be reported to the ombudsman for malpractice?

No, they can’t. But I wouldn’t worry, Adam Lewis representing the PL is one of the worlds most respected lawyers in sports law. He’s not risking his reputation on a kangaroo court.

The only question for them is, did the people high in these companies lie under oath? They could easily say yes in there eyes after all narrative over the last 10+ years

Assuming senior people at Etihad/Etisalat testify, the tribunal isn’t going to go to the lengths of finding them uncredible without some irrefutable proof that contradicts them.

Always thought it would take years because they have to go through the million of documents because they getting paid to find something wrong!

Respectfully, absolute bollocks. As above, Adam Lewis and Blackstone Chambers are extremely respected. Lewis has been doing this for 15 years now and literally writes the textbook on sports law.

He’s not taken the case for money, he already earns multi millions every year. He’s taken the case as he’s seen the evidence the PL believe they have and is confident he can land the case.

I could buy into the idea that it’s just a stitch up retrial of the UEFA case if Tom and Shaz just admitted to the bar were representing the PL, but the fact that the industry leader thinks there is enough there to land the case would signal strongly against that as I simply refuse to believe he would throw his hard earned reputation away that wilfully.

As said before though, if in 18 months time the ruling comes out and it has only ever been a rehash it will be absolutely fucking hilarious and the clubs executives will be puffing on Cuba’s fattest cigars as the PL implodes.

Important to point out too that Lewis has already represented the PL in 2x arbitration hearings against City already on the investigation and won twice….

 

[johnnytapia]

We’re already tarnished. Mission accomplished

Give your fanny a wipe.

 

[hello]

I guess than that the pl released the charge sheet against the advice of their lawyers. Surely the lawyers would have gone through the charges and made sure it was all correct ?

Indeed any kc would have had a press release independently checked and verified by 2-3 solicitors as a minimum whilst charging the client their hourly rate. There s no way the press release in February was ok’ed by counsel.

 

[Rory Bluelow]

No, they can’t. But I wouldn’t worry, Adam Lewis representing the PL is one of the worlds most respected lawyers in sports law. He’s not risking his reputation on a kangaroo court.

Assuming senior people at Etihad/Etisalat testify, the tribunal isn’t going to go to the lengths of finding them uncredible without some irrefutable proof that contradicts them.

Respectfully, absolute bollocks. As above, Adam Lewis and Blackstone Chambers are extremely respected. Lewis has been doing this for 15 years now and literally writes the textbook on sports law.

He’s not taken the case for money, he already earns multi millions every year. He’s taken the case as he’s seen the evidence the PL believe they have and is confident he can land the case.

I could buy into the idea that it’s just a stitch up retrial of the UEFA case if Tom and Shaz just admitted to the bar were representing the PL, but the fact that the industry leader thinks there is enough there to land the case would signal strongly against that as I simply refuse to believe he would throw his hard earned reputation away that wilfully.

As said before though, if in 18 months time the ruling comes out and it has only ever been a rehash it will be absolutely fucking hilarious and the clubs executives will be puffing on Cuba’s fattest cigars as the PL implodes.

Important to point out too that Lewis has already represented the PL in 2x arbitration hearings against City already on the investigation and won twice….

I don't doubt for a moment that the PL legal team is highly capable. Lewis may well be the "industry" leader and "writes the textbook on Sports Law" but the most critical elements of the charges against City are not matters of Sports Law but relate to false accounting and deception. For all his undoubted specialist expertise he is up against Lord David Pannick - arguably the Country's leading "superstar" advocate. Regarding him choosing to take the case it seems likely that he is the EPL's go-to Counsel - and in any event would likely jump at the chance to go head-to-head with Lord Pannick...its how reputations are made and he's probably nothing to lose.
The two arbitrations you refer to were mere skirmishes, the big battle is yet to come.
You do seem pretty determined to talk up the odds against City - irrespective of logic.

 

[Iassel]

I guess than that the pl released the charge sheet against the advice of their lawyers. Surely the lawyers would have gone through the charges and made sure it was all correct ?

The day before the charges came out the details of the imminent government whitepaper were leaked that an independent regulator was going to be recommended.

The charge sheet referred to the old rule book that was updated for 22/23, so the charge sheet had been laying around for some time but clearly was thrown out in a panic without being proofread first. A pretty standard display of incompetence from the PL.

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

Simon Jordan knows the square root of f*** all about our case , constantly goes on about how CAS initiated the time bar , when the time barring was always part of UEFA's own rules , and why does no one ever point out the hacker , Rui Pinto has recently been convicted of blackmail , fraud , embezzlement and counterfeiting , you'd think in fairness that might have a bearing on the case .. the case rests on evidence supposedly hacked by a convicted fraudster..

Rui also accused of attempting to blackmail clubs, maybe we didnt want to pay his price ?

 

[bluealf]

I don't doubt for a moment that the PL legal team is highly capable. Lewis may well be the "industry" leader and "writes the textbook on Sports Law" but the most critical elements of the charges against City are not matters of Sports Law but relate to false accounting and deception. For all his undoubted specialist expertise he is up against Lord David Pannick - arguably the Country's leading "superstar" advocate. Regarding him choosing to take the case it seems likely that he is the EPL's go-to Counsel - and in any event would likely jump at the chance to go head-to-head with Lord Pannick...its how reputations are made and he's probably nothing to lose.
The two arbitrations you refer to were mere skirmishes, the big battle is yet to come.
You do seem pretty determined to talk up the odds against City - irrespective of logic.

Red shirts are like that