PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Gordyola]

I have to much time on my hands because I sat and watched the whole session.

Andy Burnham as an Everton supporter has his fingers all over this and he has too much time on his hands clearly he hasn’t much do do with his day job.

I think it was Damien Green who asked a very much loaded question trying to infer that City weren’t being treated the same way as Forest and Everton ( all trod very carefully re our potential charges )

Masters response was along the lines big clubs were treated the same as small clubs. He actually didn’t mention Forest or Everton by name.

I personally think that Everton supporters have wound themselves up and must have become infected by some sort of victim mentality.

Bear in mind that the committee were interviewing the PL through Masters and the EFL through Parry.

I personally believe that it’s a fact that whilst it’s difficult to say how you measure the size of a football club it’s a fact and we all accept that some clubs are bigger than others. Despite what Everton fans think at this point in time they are not by any measure the size of say Liverpool or City, or Arsenal and maybe it’s my bias Chelsea.

But no it’s all about Everton supporter ego they argue they are a big club and of course they are bigger than Bournemouth or Brentford and of course Salford or FGR so let’s accept they are a big club .

So let’s agree everyone accepts that they and Forest are big clubs. So Masters was right wasnt he ?

That Committee was an absolute shambles they were playing to the crowd with extremely naive questions for instance one of their number talked about Woman’s football she wanted equality but when it came to Parry’s answer she quite simply hadn’t though through the implication of her suggestion.

The biggest fear for me, and I know some thing a football regulator is a good thing , is that these clowns would certainly be involved in the operations of a regulator and love it or hate it at least what we have now to a large degree is an organisation run by the clubs .

The select committee were pathetic they became tribal quoting my club The issue they need to concentrate on was the relationship between the authorities in football FA, FPL, EFL, Conference etc and representatives of all should have been there The EPL and EFL cant even agree the way going forward The SC should have been bashing their heads together for the greater good of football and pushing for them to get agreement Masters and Parry are out of their depth and its clear that football need a strong regulator unfortunately we will get a weak livered clown
The question I would have asked of Parry is weren't you responsible for creating the EPL designed to suite the red shirts that became a cartel only broken up by the investment in Chelsea and City?
Also tell us about, the cartel's "Project Big Picture" PL version 2 that aimed at even greater control from a few clubs mainly owned by Americans

 

[terraloon]

I agree with everything, I also watched it all & thought the only person who left with any credit was Masters & I was watching it to see him burnt.

Every member of the committee had a story about the club they support & yet complained that investigators weren’t independent. You couldn’t make it up.

The madness of Everton fans who keep shouting ‘whatabout City’ & ‘whatabout the big 6’ they are the ones making out they are the little club.

Andy Burnham is a **** & at some point he’ll be found shouting ‘whatabout City’ & he should be run out of town.

As I say I have too much time on my hands and spent an hour of my life watching a pod cast that involved Burnham he for me is either too blinkered or mischief making.

Of course he is entitled to an opinion but he and the vast majority of Everton supporters should read and try to understand what the IC said around the clubs losses.

Everton didnt put their hands up till very late in the process despite their claims they did , some of their claims particularly around interest on stadium loans , lost transfer income and CoVID losses were fanciful to say the least.

The irony is it was Everton who managed to get this hearing delayed so it wouldn’t be dealt with in the 22/23 season( they would almost certainly been relegated )now they are up in arms as they face the likelihood that they will suffer two lots of points deduction in the same season

Having said all that a 10 point deduction is way over the top as was the ICs reasoning as to why not to a fine.

For me at most they should have had a fine, transfer ban , a squad size reduction or a combination of those but 10 points is way too much

 

[terraloon]

The select committee were pathetic they became tribal quoting my club The issue they need to concentrate on was the relationship between the authorities in football FA, FPL, EFL, Conference etc and representatives of all should have been there The EPL and EFL cant even agree the way going forward The SC should have been bashing their heads together for the greater good of football and pushing for them to get agreement Masters and Parry are out of their depth and its clear that football need a strong regulator unfortunately we will get a weak livered clown
The question I would have asked of Parry is weren't you responsible for creating the EPL designed to suite the red shirts that became a cartel only broken up by the investment in Chelsea and City?
Also tell us about, the cartel's "Project Big Picture" PL version 2 that aimed at even greater control from a few clubs mainly owned by Americans

The plan is that the regulator will have powers over the top 5 leagues. So that’s down to the conference but below that level there are far more clubs that are vulnerable to rogue owners and many of these clubs operate on a shoestring.Little or nothing comes to say Northern Premier League clubs from the PL TV deal

The EFL don’t give a toss about real grass roots football they just want far more of the PL pie ( 25%) to filter down to them . Most of these clubs already pay far more as a% of their income than is realistic .

I once did a calculation that one EFL club ( and I for the life of me cant remember who it was ) received something like £10 from central fund for every supporter that attended and in that number was away supporters.

The simply way around ensuring sharing of power would be rather than having a 75% required majority to change PL rules to bring it down to a simple majority and if you got a 10-10 majority the FA use this casting vote

 

[PolarBearCub]

Klopp resignation confirms charges will be dropped he’s gave up against a better oiled operational machine on every level. resignation is a clutch at straws to pull the twisted heart strings for one last hoorah I hope we win the league on goal difference on goals scored the kunt

 

[WRicko]

I am not sure there is anything wrong with clubs being frugal in this window the allowed losses are still massive. Having said that the enforcement and precise mechanism on financial controls is silly

 

[nmc]

Masters seems to have made quite an impression with his ill-thought-out references to Everton and Forest.

Surely his fucking days of being the lapdog for the redshirt clubs and Spurs must be coming to a very swift end ?

Masters is the kind of guy who’d be out of his depth in a puddle - clearly only hired because he’s a patsy.

 

[nmc]

The IC's position has some logic but it amused me that they rejected a tariff that would have imposed a 9 or 10-point penalty then did exactly that. But did you really expect any common sense or logic from the PL?

I think the IC think we are all stupid and see their antics as a sign of independence and objectivity - when it’s clearly just a charade. More interesting is Masters assertions that he didn’t try to set a tariff during the hearing of Everton’s case when the IC have provided clear evidence that he did - including the specific date. Masters is a new level of bluster and incompetence even by the PLs lowly standards.

 

[Dribble]

Masters is the kind of guy who’d be out of his depth in a puddle - clearly only hired because he’s a patsy.

Based purely on the little I saw of him at the Commons, Masters is an arrogant twat.

“There is a date set for that proceeding. Unfortunately, I can’t tell you when that is but it is progressing”

Could easily have been framed as:

“There is a date set for that proceeding. However, in the interest of fairness & confidentiality, I can’t publicly tell you when that is, but the process is ongoing.”

It's a small but important difference of approach, where the latter doesn't make you sound like the up your own arse, Alan B'Stard of football.

 

[Eric Hitchmough]

Going back to the Ceferin interview in the Telegraph it's clear that it was part of the increasingly strident campaign by senior executives and writers against the Redbird takeover. There are multiple articles a day all vigorously against it & not even a single one ever supporting it. As an example of where they are this is the cartoon in today's edition:


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They’re running scared.

We’ll buy your paper, we’ll burn it down.

 

[Centurions]

Racist cunts

Nah, just bantz surely? Like a picture of a row of grinning beards.