PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[halfcenturyup]

Stefan was good on Talksport tonight no Jordan this time being a disrespectful posh insufferable Dunning Krueger ****.

Any talk of City, or was the video posted everything do you remember?

 

[halfcenturyup]

I'm sure the people chosen will be professional but it does beg the question to wonder why the independent panel is/was restricted to members only.

"Independent" panel. Yes, I get the point about the professionalism of KCs (and their counterparts) and their presumed lack of bias, but it is pushing the definition of independent when the PL appoints someone who is solely responsible for selecting all the members of a judicial panel, a disciplinary panel and an appeals panel, and then even chooses which members of those panels sit on which cases.

This doesn't mean I think the panels will be at all biased, but it is another example of poor optics from the PL to put alongside almost everything else they do. It's a bizarrely opaque and closed organisation, more reminiscent of a secret society than a members' club, imho.

 

[Plain Speaking]

Could the likely change in UK government have an influence on our case?

There have been suspicions from the UK media that the UAE may be trying to putting political pressure on the UK government regarding foreign investment?

The likely incoming UK government at the time of the PL decision will be Keir Starmer's Labour government.

According to the Labour Parties blurb: "Keir was obsessed with football and still plays every Sunday with friends... A lifelong Arsenal fan, he has a season ticket at the Emirates, where he attends with his children." Starmer also "believes football itself could become a manifesto issue for the next election, where his party would push for a “fairer” game."

The UK media portray City as unfairly sportswashing oil revenue. City have dominated the PL recently. Starmer might regard it as a popular domestic move for a significant downfall of our status to occur with his government in power?

 

[BillyShears]

"Independent" panel. Yes, I get the point about the professionalism of KCs (and their counterparts) and their presumed lack of bias, but it is pushing the definition of independent when the PL appoints someone who is solely responsible for selecting all the members of a judicial panel, a disciplinary panel and an appeals panel, and then even chooses which members of those panels sit on which cases.

This doesn't mean I think the panels will be at all biased, but it is another example of poor optics from the PL to put alongside almost everything else they do. It's a bizzzarely opaque and closed organisation, more reminiscent of a secret society than a members' club, imho.

I think we'll learn a lot from the Everton appeal decision. Everything you say about the opaque nature of the PL, and the misnomer of calling the panel "independent" is absolutely true. If I look at the league table, I have the feeling that the PL are absolutely not going to want Everton to be relegated based on the points deduction - so, I can see a world in which the IC 'independently' decide to significantly reduce it.

The flip side of that is that they dig their heels in on these rules and the Everton situation and decide that the deduction stands. I think the wider ramifications of that won't be known until the next PL board meeting because I don't see a world in which 14 clubs agree that this is the right course of action.

 

[BillyShears]

Could the likely change in UK government have an influence on our case?

There have been suspicions from the UK media that the UAE may be trying to putting political pressure on the UK government regarding foreign investment?

The likely incoming UK government at the time of the PL decision will be Keir Starmer's Labour government.

According to the Labour Parties blurb: "Keir was obsessed with football and still plays every Sunday with friends... A lifelong Arsenal fan, he has a season ticket at the Emirates, where he attends with his children." Starmer also "believes football itself could become a manifesto issue for the next election, where his party would push for a “fairer” game."

The UK media portray City as unfairly sportswashing oil revenue. City have dominated the PL recently. Starmer might regard it as a popular domestic move for a significant downfall of our status to occur with his government in power?

IMO money trumps right/left politics. Starmer will need excellent relations with Abu Dhabi for financial reasons just like the Conservatives do.

 

[halfcenturyup]

I think we'll learn a lot from the Everton appeal decision. Everything you say about the opaque nature of the PL, and the misnomer of calling the panel "independent" is absolutely true. If I look at the league table, I have the feeling that the PL are absolutely not going to want Everton to be relegated based on the points deduction - so, I can see a world in which the IC 'independently' decide to significantly reduce it.

The flip side of that is that they dig their heels in on these rules and the Everton situation and decide that the deduction stands. I think the wider ramifications of that won't be known until the next PL board meeting because I don't see a world in which 14 clubs agree that this is the right course of action.

Interesting times, but whatever happens to Everton, it's a right fucking mess and the PL have no-one but themselves to blame. I can't imagine there is any way in which the handling of all these cases (City, Everton, Forest) could have been worse. Trying to show they can regulate themselves? Dear God, it couldn't be a bigger mess if they weren't actually trying at all.

 

[BringBackSwales]

This boy is on fire. What an impressive grasp of detail. No wonder they keep asking him back.

Any particular reason why he is a FORMER advisor?

 

[cheekybids]

Like a breath of fresh air in a stale, stinky room!

Facts, details, common sense, no club bias.

What makes it so outstanding is its rarity, which speaks volumes to the quality of football “journalism” today.

No innuendo….. just facts…. He won’t last ;)

(Breath of fresh air)

 

[northendenton]

Bootiful!

And a big bonus at Christmas

 

[Judge Roughneck]

That was more clear and concise on this occasion and I couldn't put my finger on why.
Then it dawned on me, that Jizzgibbon Simon Jordan wasn't there, interrupting every 3 seconds.