PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[BillyShears]

To be fair to Masters, and I hate doing that, this all started with Platini not having the balls to do FFP properly in 2012 when he was threatened by the big clubs. Once UEFA had fucked up FFP, it was hard for the PL not to follow. And to be fair to them, they gave much more generous "break-even" targets and it's only now that these targets are biting some of the clubs on the backside. But that is the past.

His end game? I am not sure he has one. I am not sure he is that good, to be honest. What will the end game be? Immediately, there will clearly be some changes in FFP in the summer, and I have no doubt whatever happens will be just enough to get United out of the shit they are in this year with their three year rolling period. More long=term, it seems he is sleep-walking into a situation where fans are becoming more unhappy with the way things are going. If I was wearing my tin foil hat, I would say Masters is doing exactly what the big clubs want him to do. Paving the way for fan acceptance of an ESL in the future. Without the tin foil hat, I can see neither rhyme nor reason in his descent into a bigger and bigger mess.

Maybe he is just out of his depth, after all.

Anyway, feel free to pick the above to pieces. All this agreeing on everything is making me feel dirty :)

I'm not sure that this is about the ESL, it's just more about the reality of the power that United/Arsenal/Liverpool have historically wielded at PL board level. The majority of supporters are unhappy because of the noise that Masters has allowed the aforementioned clubs to make about City. It has been a smear campaign, and it has worked because a lot of rival supporters think that the credibility of the league is undermined by City.

What Masters should've done after the CAS verdict, is the opposite of what they have done. He should've backed City, backed the idea that CAS found in our favor, and basically rallied around his product. Instead he chose to go to war on behalf of the red 3. Now he's paying the price as it has ultimately undermined his credibility and created serious unhappiness right across the division.

How do they prove what they need to prove? Even if City are totally cleared by the IC, rivals will continue to say City cheated. That is exactly what Masters should've been avoiding, not leaning into.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

This, i dont think masters is some kind of evil genius by any means, i think the bright lights appealed to him and now he is massively out of his depth and isnt smart enough to find a way out, its very telling that the two other people they shortlisted for the job wanted no part of it and his previous incumbent left after 1 month, they all saw what was happening and didnt want their name and reputation tarnished, masters didnt have anything to lose at the outset and now he is trapped.

Masters has been manipulated from day one by certain club Directors. His "small clubs" quote at the Select Committee gave it all away. He may not be evil but he has acted in bad faith as far as City are concerned.

 

[mancboy]

Masters has been manipulated from day one by certain club Directors. His "small clubs" quote at the Select Committee gave it all away. He may not be evil but he has acted in bad faith as far as City are concerned.

the only reason he got the job was at the behest of certain club directors and that single comment where he called certain clubs small should have been enough to have him cast out on his ear immediately, how can you claim to be impartial when you mention the size of a club, in now way is he capable of running things fairly and that proved it.

 

[meltonblue]

I'm not sure that this is about the ESL, it's just more about the reality of the power that United/Arsenal/Liverpool have historically wielded at PL board level. The majority of supporters are unhappy because of the noise that Masters has allowed the aforementioned clubs to make about City. It has been a smear campaign, and it has worked because a lot of rival supporters think that the credibility of the league is undermined by City.

What Masters should've done after the CAS verdict, is the opposite of what they have done. He should've backed City, backed the idea that CAS found in our favor, and basically rallied around his product. Instead he chose to go to war on behalf of the red 3. Now he's paying the price as it has ultimately undermined his credibility and created serious unhappiness right across the division.

How do they prove what they need to prove? Even if City are totally cleared by the IC, rivals will continue to say City cheated. That is exactly what Masters should've been avoiding, not leaning into.

Not backing us hasn’t undermined his credibility or created unhappiness in the rest of the division. The PSR rules and sanctions have with some but ultimately it’s hard to have sympathy with them for that when they’re the clubs that voted for it.

 

[levets]

Thank you

 

[halfcenturyup]

Any particular reason why he is a FORMER advisor?

He was an advisor pre-Thaksin, I think. He doesn't look old enough :)

I guess Thaksin had his own stay-out-of-jail advisors and Mansour has his sportswashing advisors. :P

 

[halfcenturyup]

£100m is so small, 2 or 3 goodish players.

It's the amortisation and wages in that number. So you if you are breaking even you could a couple of hundred million players on 500 per week for that, or half a team of 50 million players on 200 per week. Grosso modo. It's not that bad.

 

[levets]

Like a breath of fresh air in a stale, stinky room!

Facts, details, common sense, no club bias.

What makes it so outstanding is its rarity, which speaks volumes to the quality of football “journalism” today.

I’d like to see a discussion like that, concerning our case, without Jordan interrupting.

 

[Bloominmarvellous]

£100m is so small, 2 or 3 goodish players.

I think that's the idea of why it is small though so a club may be able to cope by selling players if the owner removed funding. Bearing in mind the current 105 mill over 3 years is made up of clubs losing 15 mill max with owners being allowed to add the other 90 so even a club losing 104mill over 3 years has a certain reliance on its ownership. Increasing this just makes psr a mockery if sustainability is the aim.

 

[Rory Bluelow]

This, i dont think masters is some kind of evil genius by any means, i think the bright lights appealed to him and now he is massively out of his depth and isnt smart enough to find a way out, its very telling that the two other people they shortlisted for the job wanted no part of it and his previous incumbent left after 1 month, they all saw what was happening and didnt want their name and reputation tarnished, masters didnt have anything to lose at the outset and now he is trapped.

Agree with this. I think he’s just the useful idiot for certain powerful individuals (Gill etc) representing a handful of clubs. He won’t survive this shit show.