PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[hello]

But did the PL leadership communicate the proposed tariff to the clubs before the season started or was it made up on the hoof by Masters and his cronies? I think there may be a get-out for Everton if the sanctions weren’t agreed by all the clubs.

Yeah but you have to question the sanity of clubs voting for the psr method to be introduced without any kind of breach matrix to accompany it. That kind of leaves it open to whatever masters or in actual fact rags and dippers want rather than predefined unambiguous guidelines. Whilst I used to have loads of sympathy for Everton fans sharing a city with that lot, its kind of waned drastically with all the shite since Lescott and subsequently the incessant victim hood behaviour of "its not fair what about 115 " They voted for the fucking amendments, broke the amendments despite not knowing what any punishment would be and pleaded fucking guilty so if they fuck off the the championship with 2 sets of points deductions then sobeit. At least we wont have to witness antifootball Dyche for a season or 5.

 

[Bloominmarvellous]

Don't worry, now the rags are struggling it'll be removed, pronto.

I reckon the opposite. With the new spending ratio to turnover and the fact that ineos may actually put money in means they probably are in a better position than when it was just the glazers.

 

[willipp]

Does seem strange that we still haven't heard the outcome of Everton's appeal. It's dragging on far too long.

If there is any truth in the recent rumors that the charges against us are crumbling around the PL's feet, they are going to find it very hard sticking with Evertons punishment as their credibility will be at an all time low.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Thanks for the tariff info.

Seems like, given the large amounts that can change hands at the last minute with transfers, the financial margins are creating penalties that are simply too large.

10 points is an enormous impediment, dooming half the teams in the League to relegation. And, while I’m not against points being a final penalty, it seems like it’s a draconian result. Perhaps a transfer embargo until in compliance for one reporting period, followed by a 3 pt penalty for each subsequent exceedance, etc…

I think the thing that has outraged fans is that they get deeply harmed by the actions of the mgmt of their club, and this 10 point penalty FEELS like it came out of left field to most people.

Again, I appreciate your fact-based contributions on Bluemoon.

The points penalty was based on the commission's view that (a) the excess spending brought Everton an unfair advantage and (b) a financial penalty wasn't appropriate for a club with a wealthy owner. At first I thought a smaller points deduction was the appropriate penalty but I've changed my mind, thinking about it.

In 2022 and 2023, Everton would have been relegated with a 10-point deduction. Yet in 2021 they finished 10th, with 59 points and they were 12th the season before. Therefore you'd have to question what advantage this additional spending brought them? Clearly none, plus you'd have to look at teams like united and Chelsea, who have spent fortunes and can't get out of their group or even get into the CL/EL.

Point b was nonsensical, as I'm sure the majority of clubs have wealthy owners. The punishment should fit the crime.

 

[hgblue]

The points penalty was based on the commission's view that (a) the excess spending brought Everton an unfair advantage and (b) a financial penalty wasn't appropriate for a club with a wealthy owner. At first I thought a smaller points deduction was the appropriate penalty but I've changed my mind, thinking about it.

In 2022 and 2023, Everton would have been relegated with a 10-point deduction. Yet in 2021 they finished 10th, with 59 points and they were 12th the season before. Therefore you'd have to question what advantage this additional spending brought them? Clearly none, plus you'd have to look at teams like united and Chelsea, who have spent fortunes and can't get out of their group or even get into the CL/EL.

Point b was nonsensical, as I'm sure the majority of clubs have wealthy owners. The punishment should fit the crime.

The Everton and Forest cases have been great for us because they've woken people up to the reality of FFP and the motivations behind it.

 

[Cassandra]

The points penalty was based on the commission's view that (a) the excess spending brought Everton an unfair advantage and (b) a financial penalty wasn't appropriate for a club with a wealthy owner. At first I thought a smaller points deduction was the appropriate penalty but I've changed my mind, thinking about it.

In 2022 and 2023, Everton would have been relegated with a 10-point deduction. Yet in 2021 they finished 10th, with 59 points and they were 12th the season before. Therefore you'd have to question what advantage this additional spending brought them? Clearly none, plus you'd have to look at teams like united and Chelsea, who have spent fortunes and can't get out of their group or even get into the CL/EL.

Point b was nonsensical, as I'm sure the majority of clubs have wealthy owners. The punishment should fit the crime.

Doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence concerning the competence of the “Independent” Commision.

 

[Rochdale Blue]

What a twatty thing for the vicar to say to a youngster !

Looks a cert for the chief mumbo jumbo job at Canterbury and joining the unelected parasites in the lords.

 

[Joe Donachie]

Noel Gallagher wasn’t so sure when he was giving my lad his guitar lesson yesterday.

Funny you should say that, because Johnny marr told me the same when I knocked on for a bag of sugar this morning

 

[MillionMilesAway]

The points penalty was based on the commission's view that (a) the excess spending brought Everton an unfair advantage and (b) a financial penalty wasn't appropriate for a club with a wealthy owner. At first I thought a smaller points deduction was the appropriate penalty but I've changed my mind, thinking about it.

In 2022 and 2023, Everton would have been relegated with a 10-point deduction. Yet in 2021 they finished 10th, with 59 points and they were 12th the season before. Therefore you'd have to question what advantage this additional spending brought them? Clearly none, plus you'd have to look at teams like united and Chelsea, who have spent fortunes and can't get out of their group or even get into the CL/EL.

Point b was nonsensical, as I'm sure the majority of clubs have wealthy owners. The punishment should fit the crime.

That was my thinking when I thought about it.

10 pts is usually enough to (very roughly)

drop a top-2 team out of the top 2
drop a 3rd/4th team out of the CL places
drop a 5th/6th team out of European contention
(doesn't do a great deal for 8th-11th)
drops 12th-15th into the edge of relegation
drops 16th-17th into the relegation zone.

So it affects almost every position where it has significance.

 

[jonah62]

In the village i live they have a christmas festival where they close the road one night and all the shops, churches, takeways etc open up and they have stalls n rides …

Anyway, a couple of years ago i was there with the kids, one who had a city bobble hat on. Was just about to walk into one of the churches that had something going on and the vicar was stood at the door and on seeing the kids hat said , “ooh here they are. emtyhad are in”.
I stopped , looked at him and said, “you have just lost any chance you ever had of me turning up for sunday service” and turned away back out the door.

Made me feel better anyway

Should have called him a paedo!