PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[KS55]

Only this. There will always be "interests" who will want to devalue the integrity of the PL in the eyes of fans. And if they succeed, who benefits?

City are just a useful tool towards an end. The bigger question is why Masters has put the PL in this position.

Masters has a brain the size of a pea and judgement like Theresa May.

 

[jaiguruKun]

Masters has a brain the size of a pea and judgement like Liz Truss

Fixed

 

[KS55]

Southampton allegedly.

Which is his local club in the highlands.

 

[KS55]

Fixed

No, Liz was brilliant, crashed the markets in one fell stroke.

 

[Gazza]

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What a dreadful song that was.

 

[jaiguruKun]

What a dreadful song that was.

How can you not like classic '90s Europop? ( I guess the answer's in the question).

 

[hammocity]

Assuming we get that far, whichever member of the hateful 8 finishes fifth in the league will be praying for a City victory in the champions league (unless we are playing Arsenal).

Which appeals to my sense of the ironic, if nothing else.

It’s not just the Champion’s League though, Dippers, Brighton, West Ham and Villa will also contribute to the country coefficients in their respective competitions. At the moment England is in third place with Italy and Germany leading the way, the top two countries get the additional place.

Italy have Napoli, Lazio and Inter in the CL, all of those could fail during the current round as they’re at risk with first leg results not great. Fiorentina in the Conference League and Atlanta, Roma and AC Milan in the Europa.

Germany have Bayern and Dortmund in the CL, no representatives in the Conference and Leverkusen and Freiburg in the Europa.

Would be funny as you say if it came down to us having to win the final to get one of the H8 in the CL, hopefully the Rags will have qualified for the Conference League by that time.

 

[KS55]

I'll take the self-publicist remark as a compliment, although I've never set out to promote my "brand" over my mission of demystifying football finance and defending City's corner. You've been a staunch ally in that latter cause and I think we've earned our reputation as two of the leading City financial figures.

But I'm most surprised at the toolkit comment. I started on that road when Khaldoon mentioned at the time of the 2014 settlement that the beef with UEFA was over the treatment of wages.

I did a forensic deep-dive into the FFP regulations, including the toolkit, and I've documented the change from version 1 of the toolkit dealing with eligible wage deductions to version 2. It's unarguable that there was a material change in a key part of the basis of calculation. I clearly demonstrated this with screenshots of the 'before' and 'after'.

I worked with Swiss Ramble, whose sources at UEFA were invaluable in accurately identifying some of the key figures, and we agreed the calculations. I knew the figures that had been agreed between City & UEFA. Professor Rob Wilson at Sheffield Hallam reviewed my work and accepted it.

Furthermore I've had indications from the club that I was on the right lines. So I'm fully confident in my work. I therefore think your choice not to believe it reflects on you, not me.

Edit: here's a link to the piece I did on this. Please note that the reference to not collaborating with Swiss Ramble only refers to the piece he wrote on this. We did collaborate on the initial investigations into City's attempt to mitigate the impact of their losses for the first FFP assessment.

How UEFA shifted the Goalposts to Shaft Man City.

By Colin Savage. (@prestwichblue) Introduction I’ve written about this before but it’s clear some people still think that it’s something that I’ve made up in my fevered imagination. Having revisite…

boltfromtheblue.live

I read the original piece you have quoted here and it convinced me; I was sceptical at first, naively believing UEFA would not stoop to such depths. We actually obeyed the rules for mitigation as they stood at the time but they applied the amended rule to our already submitted accounts.
A rare case of Stefan getting it wrong? Your explanation here of your researches is further back up.

 

[manimanc]

It’s not just the Champion’s League though, Dippers, Brighton, West Ham and Villa will also contribute to the country coefficients in their respective competitions.

Would be funny as you say if it came down to us having to win the final to get one of the H8 in the CL, hopefully the Rags will have qualified for the Conference League by that time.

I hope the rags qualify for absolutely nothing. And the way they are going it's very likely.

But egghead thinks it's 1999.

 

[KS55]

And it's worth reiterating that The 3 English clubs that were part of that G-18 (as it later became) who put pressure on Platini to shift the emphasis of UEFA's FFP away from the debt it was originally intended to control, were none other than United, Liverpool and Arsenal.

The idea that those clubs were anything other the prime movers in shaping PL's version FFP is simply beyond rational thinking. That Harris finds such a notion incomprehensible proves it.

Quote from Platini: “We have a problem with the legacy clubs.” Courtesy of Martin Samuels.