PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[nmc]

Tebas once said something along the lines of” uefa couldn’t charge due to the time barred issues but the premier league has no time restrictions”. We know the uk statute of limitations applies.

If you take his words at face value and apply them in real terms then the premier league have been accosted into believing that we “got away with it” and they can bang us to rights on the new emails or the time element that uefa could not explore.

So the clubs against us have briefed masters on the next course of action. The 115 covers everything incase something was missed by the uefa cunts.

Around this time Tebas and Gill became very good mates… if I recall.

 

[Gazza]

Maybe, just maybe the whole purpose of this Man City witch-hunt is to stall City's Worldwide fan acquisition as some foreign fans may think twice about jumping on the 'cheaters bandwagon' just in case. The red shirts aren't bothered if the FA burn in the process, in fact it makes it easier to form a lucrative breakaway league.

 

[KS55]

Same rules must be applied ?
awkward ;)



all rags rushing toward exit from this thread

For “We use our own money” read “The shareholders use the bank’s money”

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Ish. Although they said one of the emails gave a distorted impression, they also said it didn’t affect the veracity of Uefa’s case. We pretty much said they were genuine, Widdowson did directly.

The leaked emails post CAS would need explaining. I’m just not sure why the same explanation wouldn’t still be valid if that’s all they’ve got.

City eventually confirmed the veracity of the emails with the evidence they provided anyway. The point is that the emails were carefully selected by Der Spiegl to show City in an apparently bad light. They published very selective extracts of those six emails. Over five million of City's documents were hacked but just six random emails, some dating back before FFP existed, were published and at least one of them had been doctored. CAS accepted their veracity as emails with the caveats they stated but then dismissed them totally as evidence of any wrongdoing. Yet apparently the PL are re-visiting them.

 

[eastmanc]

Tebas once said something along the lines of” uefa couldn’t charge due to the time barred issues but the premier league has no time restrictions”. We know the uk statute of limitations applies.

If you take his words at face value and apply them in real terms then the premier league have been accosted into believing that we “got away with it” and they can bang us to rights on the new emails or the time element that uefa could not explore.

So the clubs against us have briefed masters on the next course of action. The 115 covers everything incase something was missed by the uefa cunts.

And then the light bulb moment came, when Masters and the Premier league realised what evidence they really have to work with.

 

[eastmanc]

City eventually confirmed the veracity of the emails with the evidence they provided anyway. The point is that the emails were carefully selected by Der Spiegl to show City in an apparently bad light. They published very selective extracts of those six emails. Over five million of City's documents were hacked but just six random emails, some dating back before FFP existed, were published and at least one of them had been doctored. CAS accepted their veracity as emails with the caveats they stated but then dismissed them totally as evidence of any wrongdoing. Yet apparently the PL are re-visiting them.

The email you say was doctored and was actually bolted together with another email from a previous year to make it look worse than it actually was.

 

[Dodge]

MARTIN SAMUEL: Fair play? To the Premier League's gang of four, that means a ban on dreamers like Jack Walker https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...rtin-Samuel.html?ito=native_share_article-top
Try this.

I've shared that TEN YEAR OLD article with various LCFC fans, a Blackburn fan & a West Ham fan this morning and it's fair to say the penny is finally dropping.

I've also shared it with a Rag & dipper or two - not a fucking word.

I suggest we all share the fuck out of this and mobilise others to do so. If it's down to Bluemoon to start the revolution, so be it.

Let's have it...

 

[invisibleandalone]

Yes I agree. It’s worth saying they did say that Uefa were right to bring the case and we agreed with that too. Ultimately though, they had no proof outside of the leaked emails and that wasn’t anywhere near enough given what we provided in response.

With the PL, I know there were more leaked emails after CAS but the principle still remains the same. If that’s all they’ve got too, I’d be amazed tbh, although at the same time I really don’t know what else they could have.

They could have leprosy, well they may feel they have, when it all falls to pieces.

 

[meltonblue]

City eventually confirmed the veracity of the emails with the evidence they provided anyway. The point is that the emails were carefully selected by Der Spiegl to show City in an apparently bad light. They published very selective extracts of those six emails. Over five million of City's documents were hacked but just six random emails, some dating back before FFP existed, were published and at least one of them had been doctored. CAS accepted their veracity as emails with the caveats they stated but then dismissed them totally as evidence of any wrongdoing. Yet apparently the PL are re-visiting them.

They didn’t dismiss them totally, they said they weren’t evidence enough due to the evidence we provided ourselves (in particular the witness statements). They did say that Uefa were right to charge us on the basis of those emails, and that we didn’t provide them with the evidence we subsequently did at CAS.

With the PL, there’s only really two scenarios I can think. One is that they’ve only gone off the emails and the subsequent leaks too, and we’ve taken a similar approach to Uefa in that we will only present all the evidence when it gets to the next stage. That would explain the non co-operation charges too. The one thing against that though is this time we’ve said we’ve already provided irrefutable proof, and the CAS judgment itself would be part of it. Either way though, if they have just done that, I expect a very similar outcome as to what we got at CAS.

The other is that the PL have some evidence that we just don’t know about. I’m very dubious about that though as I’m sure that would have made its way into the public domain at some point.

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

I think the two issues get mixed up on this thread, and I admit I am as guilty as anyone for doing this. The first is the matter of the 115 very serious charges brought against us by the PL. Fortunately we have briefed Lord Pannick to argue our case and I think we are very safe in his hands. In addition we trust our owners and opinion on here appears to be overwhelmingly that our evidence is indeed irrefutable. What we find impossibly difficult at times is to keep the PL charges separate from our belief that the PL is little, if anything, more or less than a vehicle for the protection of the "red cartel" as Sir Mark Hendrick describes it. Lord Pannick will not fall into this trap but what our club should be doing, and I'd be surprised if it isn't, and our fan organisations should be doing as well, is making representations to MPs and other representative bodies to ensure the regulations which the IR works with are in the best interests of football and the fans. What our owners have done for our club and our city are models for the English game.