PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Eric Hitchmough]

Spitty at it again tonight said " the team with the 115 charges will go through"

His employers give him a free pass to defame us every fucking week, while City give him a free lunch and VIP parking space.

 

[SilverFox2]

I'm just PrestwichBlue (PB) not Prestwich& WhitefieldBlue (PWB).

This whole notion of "There's 115 charges so they must be guilty of something" is completely ridiculous. There are essentially 3 substantive issues that make up those 115, and the biggest of them was dismissed by CAS because UEFA couldn't supply the evidence to support them.

The current Everton set of charges for each year is being assessed as individual charges with individual fines etc..
Could there be a similar motive for our 115?

 

[Bloominmarvellous]

One thing i am struggling to understand is the the PL and City both went to court wanting the whole thing to be kept private, if i recall this correctly.

So if this was the case and expulsion was on the cards, are we really believing that we would have woke up one morning to find we had been expelled. it just seems too far fetched to me.

That was around the merit order back in 2021. City and the PL wanted the proceedings to remain private but the PL also wanted to be able to tell other clubs for any future arbitration. This argument about telling others was the main reason the end result was that it was in the public interest. The PL shot themselves in the foot with that request.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

I'm absolutely convinced, that on the day of reckoning, whichever way this case goes, the internet will fucking melt.
@Ric you'd better start a Go Fund Me page to get @Damocles out of retirement for One One Five the Apocalypse. He's our only hope.

 

[Kinkybyname]

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Does anyone have an answer that kills the "no smoke without fire" argument? I mean aside from the obvious!

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empty vessels make the most noise?

 

[KS55]

I'm just PrestwichBlue (PB) not Prestwich& WhitefieldBlue (PWB).

This whole notion of "There's 115 charges so they must be guilty of something" is completely ridiculous. There are essentially 3 substantive issues that make up those 115, and the biggest of them was dismissed by CAS because UEFA couldn't supply the evidence to support them.

Yes, but we know you are the head of the Whitefield mafia.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

The current Everton set of charges for each year is being assessed as individual charges with individual fines etc..
Could there be a similar motive for our 115?

I don't think so. The PL statement listed 5 separate headings, multiplied by years and rules.

The rules are fairly generic so I can't see a scenario where the IC say we've breached rule E39 in 2015/16 but not rule E40. Or that we've breached E39 in 2015/16 but not in 2016/17.

The motivation could well have been to make it look much worse than it really is though.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Yes, but we know you are the head of the Whitefield mafia.

Aka the Kosher Nosher

 

[Centurions]

I had to go back to refresh my memory on what we're alleged to have done.

Details of the Premier League Rules that the Club is alleged to have breached are as follows:

1. In respect of each of Seasons 2009/10 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those seasons that required provision by a member club to the Premier League, in the utmost good faith, of accurate financial information that gives a true and fair view of the club’s financial position, in particular with respect to its revenue (including sponsorship revenue), its related parties and its operating costs, namely:
(a) for Season 2009/10, Premier League Rules B.13, C.71, C.72 and C.75 (from 10 September 2009, Premier League Rules B.13, C.71, C.72, C.79 and C.80);
(b) for Season 2010/11, Premier League Rules B.13, C.78, C.79, C.86 and C.87;
(c) for Season 2011/12, Premier League Rules B.13, C.78, C.79, C.86 and C.87;
(d) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules B.16, E.3, E.4, E.11 and E.12;
(e) for Season 2013/14, Premier League Rules B.15, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.49;
(f) for Season 2014/15, Premier League Rules B.16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.50;
(g) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules B.16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.50;
(h) for Season 2016/17, Premier League Rules B.16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.51; and
(i) for Season 2017/18, Premier League Rules B.16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.51.

2. In respect of:
(a) each of Seasons 2009/10 to 2012/13 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to include full details of manager remuneration in its relevant contracts with its manager, namely:
(1) for Seasons 2009/10 to 2011/12 inclusive, Premier League Rules Q.7 and Q.8; and
(2) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules P.7 and P.8; and
(b) each of Seasons 2010/11 to 2015/16 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to include full details of player remuneration in its relevant contracts with its players, namely:
(1) for Seasons 2010/11 and 2011/12, Premier League Rules K.12 and K.20;
(2) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules T.12 and T.20;
(3) for Seasons 2013/14 and 2014/15, Premier League Rules T.12 and T.19; and
(4) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules T.13 and T.20.

3. In respect of each of Seasons 2013/14 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to comply with UEFA’s regulations, including UEFA’s Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations, namely:
(a) for Season 2013/14, Premier League Rule B.14.6; and
(b) for Seasons 2014/15 to 2017/18 inclusive, Premier League Rule B.15.6.

4. In respect of each of the Seasons 2015/16 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons on Profitability and Sustainability, namely:
(a) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules E.52 to E.60; and
(b) for Seasons 2016/17 and 2017/18, Premier League Rules E.53 to E.60.

5. In respect of the period from December 2018 to date, the Premier League Rules applicable in the relevant Seasons requiring a member club to cooperate with, and assist, the Premier League in its investigations, including by providing documents and information to the Premier League in the utmost good faith, namely:
(a) for Season 2018/19, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;
(b) for Season 2019/20, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;
(c) for Season 2020/21, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;
(d) for Season 2021/22, Premier League Rules B.15, B.18, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13; and
(e) for Season 2022/23, Premier League Rules B.15, B.18, W.1, W.2, W.15 and W.16.

So, if I've got this right:-

1. Cooked the books in regards to sponsorship and perhaps Fordham?
2. Mancini
3. Failing UEFA FFP? Obviously(?) can't be right?
4. Failing P&S
5. Failure to cooperate

Am I well wide of the mark on any of that?

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

My utd supporting work colleague says it is :

1 - Like getting sponsorships worth billions and buying illegal players weith the profits
2 - Buying too many expenisve players
3 - Using sport to wash laundered money out of the country.
4 - Etihad, something to do with Etihad!
5 - Paying Haaland so much money he cant go to Real MAdrid.

40yrs old and comes out with that sort of shite.