PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

projectriver said:
As someone who personally led the defence of major false accounting claims in civil proceedings, prosecuted a civil claim for negligence against an auditor and for over 5 years led the (successful) defence of a public company being investigated by the SFO, I'd say my speculation is well founded. I say that merely to establish my own credibility on these matters.

There is simply no other way to read section 1 of the PL charges. These matters rarely start with the SFO but they can progress to the SFO (not that I am saying that will happen).
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Hi there, throughout our battles with the authorities you have been the voice of expertise in a wall of noise. We are all very grateful you have been around to spell things out in language ordinary folk can understanding. I have a couple of questions that you may already have answered, but here goes:

1. others have mentioned a time limit for allegations over six years old, whilst the EPL are happy to throw allegations around from 2009, if this went to court could these older allegations be time barred?
2. Can City sue the EPL and those involved in what they could perceive to be a joint venture to destabilise or destroy the City business?

thanks you.
 
John Wayne said:
The investigation predates Masters' appointment. He could not realistically quash an ongoing investigation.
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He inherited the investigation but as CEO he will have huge influence on its progress. He joined the PL in November 2019 and will have had a huge say in the decision to hit City with 100 charges. Going back 14 years into our accounts to find a reason to charge us is more than a legal action. It's an attempt to destroy the club.
Given that most civil cases have a limitation of six years, except for exceptional circumstances, this is unprecedented. In fact I cant think of any other sporting case on such a historic scale. It looks like a vendetta to any fair-minded person.
 
paulchapo said:
In a nutshell that is it. It demoralises the whole club from top to bottom no matter how bullish some fans get on here. Pep and the players start thinking, "Why go all out to win if they might take away any titles we do?" Sponsors will be wary and so will players from joining us. Football is so competitive just a tiny drop off is the difference between success and failure. As we lose ground as a result our rivals grow stronger and I'm sure even tighter rules will be brought in to ensure that stays the case.

Of course the opposite could happen and it galvanises the whole club but I think that's unlikely. We cannot allow this to drag on for years as the damage will be almost as great as losing the case.
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Not so sure.
Pep’s Catalan nature and the fact his friends run the club will ensure he’s up for the fight.
He like all the others knew this day was coming and I predict will be more than motivated by this.
We the fans must play our part and get behind the team now more than ever.
It’s time for proper siege mentality.
 
not my fault! said:
From all that my take is… What type of stain? I’m sure I’m not the only one curious.
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A shit stain. You throw enough of it & some's bound to stick.

As I said in a post yesterday, the Rags came crawling out from under their stones when this news broke. I had several messages:

"CROOKS" "THIEVES" "CHEATS" etc...

They all stopped when I asked them "What are these allegations related to?"

Every time they came back with "100 counts of FFP breaches" etc, I batted them away & stuck to "What are these allegations related to?"

Most don't even understand FFP or even know what exactly it is we're being accused of, BUT as long as it has the potential to stop City, that's all that matters to them!

As it turns out, within a couple of hours, all the "CHEATS" etc messages stopped, because I refused to even get into the bollocks related to this case. It's FFP itself & FFP only that we should discuss.

It's FFP that's fundamentally flawed, so it stands to reason that all decisions & findings originating from FFP are fundamentally flawed by default.

Why are we even discussing these flawed findings, instead of the FFP mechanism from which these flaws arise?
 
With the charges of non compliance with UEFAs FFP, won't us getting cleared at CAS mean that he can't be found guilty in those years?

Or will the league try to prove UEFAs case again?
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
He inherited the investigation but as CEO he will have huge influence on its progress. He joined the PL in November 2019 and will have had a huge say in the decison to hit City with 100 charges. Going back 14 years into our accounts to find a reason to charge us is more than a legal action. It's an attempt to destroy the club.
Given that most civil cases have a limitation of six years, except for exceptional circumstances, this is unprecedented. In fact I cant think of any other historic sporting case on such a historic scale. It looks like a vendetta to any fair-minded person.
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Question: If the charges are simply year on year copies of the same charge, is that why they would go back so far? To the 1st example of it occurring?
 
This is going to be a very odd period for the club. We're going to be playing in the Premier League while effectively at war with them.

It's going to cast even more doubt on referee appointments, VAR decisions, etc.

And if we do overhaul Arsenal, and the Premier League have to crown us Champions, it's all going to feel rather awkward.

It wouldn't be quite so bad if the PL were investigating 3 or 4 clubs, but it seems to be their view that no one else has done anything wrong; all problems lie with City who have committed 100+ offences.
 
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