PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Crooked_rain said:
I agree. Actually my support of city hinges on the decision.

I like to keep a strong set of morals and if it was our rival clubs found guilty of this, we would be be all over them for years of cheating. We would want them out of the game. I think I'd have to keep that same sense of morality when it's closer to home.

If we are found guilty, I'll be extremely ashamed of the club because we always considered ourselves "good" club. It would be hard to lend my support to an outfit that's breaking laws.

I'm sure I won't stop being a city fan per se, but I think my level of investment in it will no longer be there. Maybe time will be a healer but I'll be heartbroken if we are guilty, especially knowing how we would view other clubs if they were in that position.

I think we'll beat it though or at least come to some settlement where all parties come out of it not looking too bad.
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Extremely ashamed, fuck off!

I’ll tell you what “extremely ashamed” is, it’s getting blind drunk throwing up all down your top, shitting your pants and having to catch the bus home.
Now that’s Extremely ashamed!
 
Crooked_rain said:
I agree. Actually my support of city hinges on the decision.

I like to keep a strong set of morals and if it was our rival clubs found guilty of this, we would be be all over them for years of cheating. We would want them out of the game. I think I'd have to keep that same sense of morality when it's closer to home.

If we are found guilty, I'll be extremely ashamed of the club because we always considered ourselves "good" club. It would be hard to lend my support to an outfit that's breaking laws.

I'm sure I won't stop being a city fan per se, but I think my level of investment in it will no longer be there. Maybe time will be a healer but I'll be heartbroken if we are guilty, especially knowing how we would view other clubs if they were in that position.

I think we'll beat it though or at least come to some settlement where all parties come out of it not looking too bad.
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6700 plus posts and you’ve finally outed yourself. Off you go
 
Crooked_rain said:
I agree. Actually my support of city hinges on the decision.

I like to keep a strong set of morals and if it was our rival clubs found guilty of this, we would be be all over them for years of cheating. We would want them out of the game. I think I'd have to keep that same sense of morality when it's closer to home.

If we are found guilty, I'll be extremely ashamed of the club because we always considered ourselves "good" club. It would be hard to lend my support to an outfit that's breaking laws.

I'm sure I won't stop being a city fan per se, but I think my level of investment in it will no longer be there. Maybe time will be a healer but I'll be heartbroken if we are guilty, especially knowing how we would view other clubs if they were in that position.

I think we'll beat it though or at least come to some settlement where all parties come out of it not looking too bad.
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Really? So if we’re not cleared by the panel - knowing how other clubs are never investigated in the way that we have been - you won’t be furiously thinking that this is all a set up by the red cartel who never get done for anything. Think - why , for example, were rags allowed to write off such a huge sum for Covid? Has any other club had their business investigated over a 10 year period?

Instead of disbelieving the club you should be considering the intention of the PL regarding our successful club.

Corruption in football organisations has been proved at the highest level - Platini; Blatter to name two. Don’t really think our PL has been innocent in all this
 
Whether or not said:
I would struggle to disagree more with this. If we were talking about long established rules that existed for a legitimate purpose, your expectations of the club might be reasonable. But we are not. These rules were invented and put in place by a protectionist cartel with the sole intention of stifling the development of City, and anybody else who might challenge the established order. Not content with that, the goalposts have been consistently moved to make compliance for us more difficult, whilst clear transgressions by the cartel have been ignored and interest free loans have been deemed legitimate.
You reference being ashamed if we are guilty. I feel the other way around. I obviously want us to be exonerated, but the shame would have been if we had meekly just accepted the bent status quo, rather than going for it as we did, and winning everything.
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Excellent reply.
 
surprisedbygrass said:
Truth is established these days by spectacle and repetition of spectacle to grab attention , facts don't matter , just look at Trump, Farage and Boris for recent political examples .
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The fact you’re been gaslit into calling one of those politicians by their given name, despite it not even being his forename, sort of makes your own point for you.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
The fact you’re been gaslit into calling one of those politicians by their given name, despite it not even being his forename, sort of makes your own point for you.
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Exactly and a fair point . I , too, am a mere human. It's as insidious as the way everyone says " charges " not "allegations".
 
Crooked_rain said:
I agree. Actually my support of city hinges on the decision.

I like to keep a strong set of morals and if it was our rival clubs found guilty of this, we would be be all over them for years of cheating. We would want them out of the game. I think I'd have to keep that same sense of morality when it's closer to home.

If we are found guilty, I'll be extremely ashamed of the club because we always considered ourselves "good" club. It would be hard to lend my support to an outfit that's breaking laws.

I'm sure I won't stop being a city fan per se, but I think my level of investment in it will no longer be there. Maybe time will be a healer but I'll be heartbroken if we are guilty, especially knowing how we would view other clubs if they were in that position.

I think we'll beat it though or at least come to some settlement where all parties come out of it not looking too bad.
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This has to be a joke, thats one very dry sense of humour that might not work but fair play for giving it a go.
 
Centurions said:
I've always honestly thought that calling Boris "Boris" was actually meant to be disparaging, a bit like calling Thatcher "Hilda"?
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Completely disagree, at least from my perspective. The name, and its routine use sits on all fours with the bumbling, somewhat avuncular image that the lying, sociopathic **** has cultivated.
 
SatOnTheWall said:
I disagree. If they are proven to have done what they are accused of, they’ll be selling up and moving on very quickly.

And we as fans will still be here because none of us have done anything wrong at all.
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What about smoking in the South Stand toilets?
 
Crooked_rain said:
I agree. Actually my support of city hinges on the decision.

I like to keep a strong set of morals and if it was our rival clubs found guilty of this, we would be be all over them for years of cheating. We would want them out of the game. I think I'd have to keep that same sense of morality when it's closer to home.

If we are found guilty, I'll be extremely ashamed of the club because we always considered ourselves "good" club. It would be hard to lend my support to an outfit that's breaking laws.

I'm sure I won't stop being a city fan per se, but I think my level of investment in it will no longer be there. Maybe time will be a healer but I'll be heartbroken if we are guilty, especially knowing how we would view other clubs if they were in that position.

I think we'll beat it though or at least come to some settlement where all parties come out of it not looking too bad.
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Dearie me grow a backbone.

Liverpool sponsored by a money laundering bank for illegal arms. Other clubs using illegal owner loans. Utd using Red Football ltd for the pl rules. Clubs selling hotels and their ladies teams to themselves.
Rags and Chelsea both fined by Uefa for breaking ffp rules.
The hateful 8 and their letter.
The press/media on the red cartel pay roll.
Clubs voting in illegal rules to suit themselves.

And yet you might turn your back on the best run club in the world because of a witchhunt.
Just look at East Manchester just look at what our owner has done for the area. Look at the stadium, the campus ( personally dont like the extension ) .
Look at the teams City have had centurions, domestic treble, the treble, 4 in a row.
So IF City have broken rules put in by our rivals to try and protect them, personally i would say well done City. If i was a Newcastle fan I would be livid that the new owners are just lying down and obeying the cartel rules. One member of the cartel trying to buy their striker by using these rules. OK Newcastle are refusing to sell, but Newcastle should be spending millions in upgrading their squad not being stopped by the red cartel rules.

Would being guilty stop me from wearing my City gear any less ? No, I would probably wear it more.
Would guilty make me cover my City tatts ? No
Would guilty stop me going to games ? No

Personally I dont think you are a City fan, more a wum.
 
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Blue Pete said:
My support is irrelevant to the charges, partly because the charges we are alleged to have broken have no impact upon what the players did on the pitch and were related to how the club is financed (which really isnt my problem), but mainly because its my club irrespective of who our owners are or what they have done.

Even if I wanted our owners to change (and like many on here many years ago I protested about Swales, both before and after matches) but I will still support my club. We are not a cult, our owners can do bad things and I wouldn't defend them, but I would still support my club
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Once a blue always a blue CTID
 
give it to gordon said:
Dearie me grow a backbone.

Liverpool sponsored by a money laundering bank for illegal arms. Other clubs using illegal owner loans. Utd using Red Football ltd for the pl rules. Clubs selling hotels and their ladies teams to themselves.
Rags and Chelsea both fined by Uefa for breaking ffp rules.
The hateful 8 and their letter.
The press/media on the red cartel pay roll.
Clubs voting in illegal rules to suit themselves.

And yet you might turn your back on the best run club in the world because of a witchhunt.
Just look at East Manchester just look at what our owner has done for the area. Look at the stadium, the campus ( personally dont like the extension ) .
Look at the teams City have had centurions, domestic treble, the treble, 4 in a row.
So IF City have broken rules put in by our rivals to try and protect them, personally i would say well done City. If i was a Newcastle fan I would be livid that the new owners are just lying down and obeying the cartel rules. One member of the cartel trying to buy their striker by using these rules. OK Newcastle are refusing to sell, but Newcastle should be spending millions in upgrading their squad not being stopped by the red cartel rules.

Personally I dont think you are a City fan, more a wum.
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Brilliantly put mate
 
give it to gordon said:
Liverpool sponsored by a money laundering bank for illegal arms. Other clubs using illegal owner loans. Utd using Red Football ltd for the pl rules. Clubs selling hotels and their ladies teams to themselves.
Rags and Chelsea both fined by Uefa for breaking ffp rules.
The hateful 8 and their letter.
The press/media on the red cartel pay roll.
Clubs voting in illegal rules to suit themselves.
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This
 
give it to gordon said:
Dearie me grow a backbone.

Liverpool sponsored by a money laundering bank for illegal arms. Other clubs using illegal owner loans. Utd using Red Football ltd for the pl rules. Clubs selling hotels and their ladies teams to themselves.
Rags and Chelsea both fined by Uefa for breaking ffp rules.
The hateful 8 and their letter.
The press/media on the red cartel pay roll.
Clubs voting in illegal rules to suit themselves.

And yet you might turn your back on the best run club in the world because of a witchhunt.
Just look at East Manchester just look at what our owner has done for the area. Look at the stadium, the campus ( personally dont like the extension ) .
Look at the teams City have had centurions, domestic treble, the treble, 4 in a row.
So IF City have broken rules put in by our rivals to try and protect them, personally i would say well done City. If i was a Newcastle fan I would be livid that the new owners are just lying down and obeying the cartel rules. One member of the cartel trying to buy their striker by using these rules. OK Newcastle are refusing to sell, but Newcastle should be spending millions in upgrading their squad not being stopped by the red cartel rules.

Would being guilty stop me from wearing my City gear any less ? No, I would probably wear it more.
Would guilty make me cover my City tatts ? No
Would guilty stop me going to games ? No

Personally I dont think you are a City fan, more a wum.
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We all thought that City had just got through before the drawbridge closed but persistent rule changes aimed at us with massive charges on past city rule following have forced legal action.

If Newcastle feel they are being unfairly treated start legal action.

Maybe they feel the rules are about to be removed or eased significantly so are waiting for the city appeal to be released.

Maybe the Board Member that Qatar has on PL asks for no legal action.

Maybe they think they belong with other compliant clubs who have earned historic pass keys

Who knows but I have no intention to feel sorry for Newcastle they are either with the fox or the hounds with their dilemma.
 
Crooked_rain said:
I agree. Actually my support of city hinges on the decision.

I like to keep a strong set of morals and if it was our rival clubs found guilty of this, we would be be all over them for years of cheating. We would want them out of the game. I think I'd have to keep that same sense of morality when it's closer to home.

If we are found guilty, I'll be extremely ashamed of the club because we always considered ourselves "good" club. It would be hard to lend my support to an outfit that's breaking laws.

I'm sure I won't stop being a city fan per se, but I think my level of investment in it will no longer be there. Maybe time will be a healer but I'll be heartbroken if we are guilty, especially knowing how we would view other clubs if they were in that position.

I think we'll beat it though or at least come to some settlement where all parties come out of it not looking too bad.
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Your sore thumb is really in full view !!!!
 
Big mals fedora said:
You’re so transparent. Another gobshite masquerading as a blue
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Here’s what else he’s saying:

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Having watched the game, Grealish did ok but was far from ‘phenomenal’.

I also think it’s more of a disgrace that Grealish seemed to prefer the beers rather than be 100% dedicated to the cause - rather than City not utilising him every week.

Unfortunately @Crooked_rain seems more intent on bigging up every other club and putting City down at every opportunity.
 
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