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PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules
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I’m sure that most clubs don’t care whether we are guilty or not, they just want the verdict that gets us out of their way. I doubt if the execs of these clubs really have any knowledge of the issues at all.Sure but I am sure most other clubs think and hope City are "guilty" - that is just the facts.
halfcenturyup
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If these people are so confident of our “guilt”, why are they skulking behind the cloak of anonymity? At least señor teabag has the balls to stand up and be counted.
Out with it, you fucking cowards. Put your names to your words.
Some sort of evidence of this “guilt” would be handy as well. Whats that? You haven’t got any? Well now, there’s a turn-up for the books.
And the athletic expect City fans to pay for this shite? I don’t fucking think so.
American publication speaks anonymously to executives and owners of rival clubs and gets the quotes it wants, including a bizarre comparison to how these things are done in the US. Pretty clear where the bias is going to be.
But yes, the odd anonymous quote not from executives of the other clubs makes it a tad interesting, somewhat weakened by the fact they are anonymous so we can't weigh up how reliable they are. I could quite easily write a rebuttal with anonymous quotes from executives of other clubs which would also be unverifiable bullshit.
On the whole, the article is certainly worth how much I pay them every month. Which is nothing.
halfcenturyup
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Not sure why anybody is upset by Crafton’s article.
It’s a an article no doubt demanded by his editor on the day before the season starts - a piece based around the idea that EVERYBODY in football demands a guilty verdict - and if they don’t get it then football is ruined.
I think you answered your own question there.
Charlesfarsbar
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There are far too many un named sources that are willing to put on record their biased view which is trying their control the narrative of the caseAbsolute fucking hatchet job thinly disguised as journalism on The Athletic tonight!
Manchester City, the Premier League and the season everything might change
A few excerpts:
There are some (executives) who are so worn down by the decade-long pursuit of City that they fear Manchester City’s case may result in a financial settlement rather than a sporting penalty. Then there are rival executives who consider this outcome to be impossible, utterly outrageous, and say it would cast the death knell for financial sustainability not only within the English game but across European football.
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As one Premier League club executive says: “The collective view I’ve heard is that an appropriate sanction would have to be a points deduction so substantial — we are talking here between 70 and 80 points — that it guarantees City a season in the Championship.”
Another of the sport’s leading figures suggests the punishment ought to be more creative, that a number of points could be deducted from City in each of the next three seasons, meaning the club’s chance of Champions League qualification would be severely restricted. Another compares the City case to that of the English rugby union side Saracens who, when Premiership champions in 2019, were deducted 35 points, hit with a £5.36million ($6.9m at current rates) fine and relegated to the second division owing to non-compliance with the league’s salary-cap rules.
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A coach who came up against City has simply made his mind up about their guilt and argues they have not achieved their success with the same level of discipline as their rivals, but suspects it is too late now to truly remedy the matter. At the same time, there are fears that a failure to convict and punish City poses major questions about the Premier League’s ability to run itself, particularly with the prospect of an independent regulator still looming next year. Numerous club executives say their incentives to follow the rules would be greatly diminished if the Premier League proves toothless on City.
…
In English football, nobody is prepared to put their name to quotes about the City case. That is not the same for La Liga president Javier Tebas, who has been a longstanding critic of the impact of clubs linked to nation-states. City always insist they are not owned by the state of the United Arab Emirates (UAE), but Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan is the deputy prime minister of the UAE and the minister of presidential affairs. He is the majority shareholder in City via Newton Investment and Development, a company he wholly owns and which is registered in Abu Dhabi.
Tebas tells The Athletic: “It is difficult for me to say what is proportionate in England because I don’t know so well the English rules and law. But I can refer to what happened at UEFA… then what happened at CAS — in a resolution I would describe as a joke — is they took the sanction away. It was a very controversial decision to take away that sanction. Now, let’s see, I won’t dare to predict, but I am aware that there is a lot of concern among many clubs in the Premier League about what happens with City. What happens with Man City is a before and after moment for the Premier League itself.”
…
And so on…
Anyone would think the Euros are over, the Olympics are over, and City are about to embark on the chance to win a FIFTH STRAIGHT TITLE!!!
UFB…Oh wait, no, it’s entirely predictable!
If you thought the whole of English football was praying for an Arsenal title win last season, one can only imagine the narrative we face this season.
Let the games begin!
We have only heard this side all the way through the past 18 months, no balance to these articles whatsoever , they usually caveat with City denying any wrongdoing- buried in the bottom of the piece
City have decided to keep our counsel and stick to the facts of the case that will only be voiced at the IC
Only once this process has been completed will we see the balanced arguments as to our guilt or not
This all points to us being very confident and the other side unsure
Not long now blues before we get this monkey off our back
Stoned Rose
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Absolute fucking hatchet job thinly disguised as journalism on The Athletic tonight!
Manchester City, the Premier League and the season everything might change
A few excerpts:
There are some (executives) who are so worn down by the decade-long pursuit of City that they fear Manchester City’s case may result in a financial settlement rather than a sporting penalty. Then there are rival executives who consider this outcome to be impossible, utterly outrageous, and say it would cast the death knell for financial sustainability not only within the English game but across European football.
…
As one Premier League club executive says: “The collective view I’ve heard is that an appropriate sanction would have to be a points deduction so substantial — we are talking here between 70 and 80 points — that it guarantees City a season in the Championship.”
Another of the sport’s leading figures suggests the punishment ought to be more creative, that a number of points could be deducted from City in each of the next three seasons, meaning the club’s chance of Champions League qualification would be severely restricted. Another compares the City case to that of the English rugby union side Saracens who, when Premiership champions in 2019, were deducted 35 points, hit with a £5.36million ($6.9m at current rates) fine and relegated to the second division owing to non-compliance with the league’s salary-cap rules.
…
A coach who came up against City has simply made his mind up about their guilt and argues they have not achieved their success with the same level of discipline as their rivals, but suspects it is too late now to truly remedy the matter. At the same time, there are fears that a failure to convict and punish City poses major questions about the Premier League’s ability to run itself, particularly with the prospect of an independent regulator still looming next year. Numerous club executives say their incentives to follow the rules would be greatly diminished if the Premier League proves toothless on City.
…
In English football, nobody is prepared to put their name to quotes about the City case. That is not the same for La Liga president Javier Tebas, who has been a longstanding critic of the impact of clubs linked to nation-states. City always insist they are not owned by the state of the United Arab Emirates (UAE), but Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan is the deputy prime minister of the UAE and the minister of presidential affairs. He is the majority shareholder in City via Newton Investment and Development, a company he wholly owns and which is registered in Abu Dhabi.
Tebas tells The Athletic: “It is difficult for me to say what is proportionate in England because I don’t know so well the English rules and law. But I can refer to what happened at UEFA… then what happened at CAS — in a resolution I would describe as a joke — is they took the sanction away. It was a very controversial decision to take away that sanction. Now, let’s see, I won’t dare to predict, but I am aware that there is a lot of concern among many clubs in the Premier League about what happens with City. What happens with Man City is a before and after moment for the Premier League itself.”
…
And so on…
Anyone would think the Euros are over, the Olympics are over, and City are about to embark on the chance to win a FIFTH STRAIGHT TITLE!!!
UFB…Oh wait, no, it’s entirely predictable!
If you thought the whole of English football was praying for an Arsenal title win last season, one can only imagine the narrative we face this season.
Let the games begin!
“A person who lives in my imagination said…..”.
Stoned Rose
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Fearing the worst. Hoping for the best.
Immodium.
Looks like the weedy twat who always got put in goal when sides were picked at school. And a definite "take my ball home if I don't get my way" merchant. Plus I'm getting the word nonce looking at him.
eastmanc
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Isn't it amazing that all these hatchet jobs of articles never ever mention that we could be innocent of all charges. They are absolutely desperate to shift City out of the way.Absolute fucking hatchet job thinly disguised as journalism on The Athletic tonight!
Manchester City, the Premier League and the season everything might change
A few excerpts:
There are some (executives) who are so worn down by the decade-long pursuit of City that they fear Manchester City’s case may result in a financial settlement rather than a sporting penalty. Then there are rival executives who consider this outcome to be impossible, utterly outrageous, and say it would cast the death knell for financial sustainability not only within the English game but across European football.
…
As one Premier League club executive says: “The collective view I’ve heard is that an appropriate sanction would have to be a points deduction so substantial — we are talking here between 70 and 80 points — that it guarantees City a season in the Championship.”
Another of the sport’s leading figures suggests the punishment ought to be more creative, that a number of points could be deducted from City in each of the next three seasons, meaning the club’s chance of Champions League qualification would be severely restricted. Another compares the City case to that of the English rugby union side Saracens who, when Premiership champions in 2019, were deducted 35 points, hit with a £5.36million ($6.9m at current rates) fine and relegated to the second division owing to non-compliance with the league’s salary-cap rules.
…
A coach who came up against City has simply made his mind up about their guilt and argues they have not achieved their success with the same level of discipline as their rivals, but suspects it is too late now to truly remedy the matter. At the same time, there are fears that a failure to convict and punish City poses major questions about the Premier League’s ability to run itself, particularly with the prospect of an independent regulator still looming next year. Numerous club executives say their incentives to follow the rules would be greatly diminished if the Premier League proves toothless on City.
…
In English football, nobody is prepared to put their name to quotes about the City case. That is not the same for La Liga president Javier Tebas, who has been a longstanding critic of the impact of clubs linked to nation-states. City always insist they are not owned by the state of the United Arab Emirates (UAE), but Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan is the deputy prime minister of the UAE and the minister of presidential affairs. He is the majority shareholder in City via Newton Investment and Development, a company he wholly owns and which is registered in Abu Dhabi.
Tebas tells The Athletic: “It is difficult for me to say what is proportionate in England because I don’t know so well the English rules and law. But I can refer to what happened at UEFA… then what happened at CAS — in a resolution I would describe as a joke — is they took the sanction away. It was a very controversial decision to take away that sanction. Now, let’s see, I won’t dare to predict, but I am aware that there is a lot of concern among many clubs in the Premier League about what happens with City. What happens with Man City is a before and after moment for the Premier League itself.”
…
And so on…
Anyone would think the Euros are over, the Olympics are over, and City are about to embark on the chance to win a FIFTH STRAIGHT TITLE!!!
UFB…Oh wait, no, it’s entirely predictable!
If you thought the whole of English football was praying for an Arsenal title win last season, one can only imagine the narrative we face this season.
Let the games begin!
Stoned Rose
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He’s definitely got his mum’s knickers on there.