PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[NowInMilnrow]

Utd's UEFA FFP? Fined after UEFA disallowed the 40 million COVID costs. Not UEFA's fault it was ignored by the press.

Utd's PL FFP? 40 million COVID costs would have been reviewed at a high level. I think the costs have to be audited. Nothing really to see here unless you believe in conspiracy.

Utd's share costs? Same as above, would have been reviewed at a high level and audited presumably. They shouldn't have been included in the club's accounts anyway, but I can't see any rule for allowing them as deductible costs. Bit weird.

Liverpool hacking? Settled between the parties.

Liverpool 50 mill Stanley Park costs? Again, would have been reviewed at high level and probably audited. Seems way too high, though. Also a bit weird.

Chelsea off-books payments? Being investigated. It takes the PL a while, bless them.

Chelsea asset sales? No rule against it in the PL so accepted, but will be disallowed by UEFA. But stupid of the PL. Surprise, not.

Strange player sales at year end? Will be reviewed for arm's length under the threshold payment rules but not sure the PL has the strength for more conflict. Threatened with "good faith" rule, but Leicester ruling may scupper that. Anyway, we will see when the accounts for 2023/24 are reviewed by the PL.

Did I miss anything?

If a club’s costs are allowed by the PL but not by UEFA, and they are consequently fined by UEFA, does that mean that the PL should then sanction the club for not complying with UEFA FFP rules?
After all, aren’t 5 of our charges for not complying with UEFA FFP rules?

 

[alexmcity]

There will be many rumours surrounding the 'trial', like the cease and disist letters. Ignore them. Several people at the club aside, nobody really knows what's happening.

Those who are highly optimistic or pessimistic are probably wrong. I think we'll get punished (say, for non-cooperation), but not seriously enough to make our rivals happy. My guess is they will be disappointed. But, again, nobody really knows.

 

[bigA]

His levy Jewish maybe that’s why there’s so much hate for our owners fuck him is team is shit

Yes Levy is Jewish and so is Joe Lewis the "de facto" owner of the Enic group and Tottenham. His (Lewis) family are named as owners but that is probably because Joe Lewis was convicted by a US court of multiple counts of insider trading yet got off with probation and a $5million dollar fine. So much for them for being the fine upstanding clubs they are purportedly to be. Yet the PL see Lewis as a "fit and proper" owner and see our club as deceitful, conniving, cheating bastards. Yet the real conniving, deceitful and cheating bastards are owning Tottenham.

On the other hand City and their owners have worked with the late Sir Howard Bernstein, who was Jewish, to regenerate the area surrounding the Etihad from a socially and economically deprived area of the City to a thriving residential and business area bringing much needed jobs and money to the area. No anti-semitic attitudes from our owners, just them working together in partnership. But nothing is mentioned about that in the main stream media. That is conveniently forgotten and the narrative is that we're fraudulent cheating bastards who need to be destroyed "for the good of the game".

So yes there maybe a anti-arabian agenda being played by the PL and certain clubs but that will be difficult to prove. But there is a foul smell of it being the case.

 

[spiny]

I'm glad Khaldoon was there to see the game where the Arse showed their true colours on and off the pitch. It will strengthen his resolve to ensure City are exonerated and our success continues unabated.

The game was a skirmish that he, Pep and the players will not forget as a reminder of what they are up against - if it was ever needed.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Yes Levy is Jewish and so is Joe Lewis the "de facto" owner of the Enic group and Tottenham. His (Lewis) family are named as owners but that is probably because Joe Lewis was convicted by a US court of multiple counts of insider trading yet got off with probation and a $5million dollar fine. So much for them for being the fine upstanding clubs they are purportedly to be. Yet the PL see Lewis as a "fit and proper" owner and see our club as deceitful, conniving, cheating bastards. Yet the real conniving, deceitful and cheating bastards are owning Tottenham. So yes there maybe a anti-arabian agenda being played by the PL and certain clubs but that will be difficult to prove.

On the other hand City and their owners have worked with the late Sir Howard Bernstein, who was Jewish, to regenerate the area surrounding the Etihad from a socially and economically deprived area of the City to a thriving residential and business area bringing much needed jobs and money to the area. No anti-semitic attitudes from our owners, just them working together in partnership. But nothing is mentioned about that in the main stream media. That is conveniently forgotten and the narrative is that we're fraudulent cheating bastards who need to be destroyed "for the good of the game".

So yes there maybe an anti-arabian agenda being played by the PL and certain clubs but that will be difficult to prove. But there is a foul smell of it being the case.

Sectarian hatred has played its part in the campaign against City. There is an anti-Arab element among some club Directors. I have personally witnessed this on occasions. JW Henry’s nickname for Soriano was “the terrorist.” I know Soriano is not of Arab origin but you get the drift.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

Well, it finally happened to me today.

After playing football on a Sunday as normal the conversation switch to the Arsenal game this afternoon, just the usual good natured banter about who would win and so on, The one Rag threw in the "doesnt matter anyway once you cheating cunts get thrown out of the league" Now we have all heard this before but this time is was said with some venom and not at all meant as banter. There were a few comments back and forth and others suddenly jumped in as well. Within a minute I was facing a full on rant from 3 people with genuine anger aimed towards me. Now these are lads that I have known for years, not close mates but friends none the less. It was very close to coming to blows at one point and it was a very uncomfortable experience for me.

It does make me fear for what will happen should be be cleared of these breaches, there are a lot of very angry people out there who aren't going to be happy should it go in our favour.

you should of done it. Will soon shut them up

 

[halfcenturyup]

If a club’s costs are allowed by the PL but not by UEFA, and they are consequently fined by UEFA, does that mean that the PL should then sanction the club for not complying with UEFA FFP rules?
After all, aren’t 5 of our charges for not complying with UEFA FFP rules?

:) I wish that were true. It would show how stupid it all is.

But I suspect the UEFA rules the club is accused of breaking are to do with the first tranche of allegations, filing incorrect accounts, rather than failing FFP.

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

Another day, another shit Guardian article. This time by Sean Ingle. He looks as thick as pigshit in his profile pic and his writing confirms it.

There can be no Goldilocks punishment – Manchester City should either be vindicated or damned | Sean Ingle

The seriousness of the club’s 115 charges by the Premier League leaves no room for a result that lets everyone live with outcome

www.theguardian.com

 

[WRicko]

Utd's UEFA FFP? Fined after UEFA disallowed the 40 million COVID costs. Not UEFA's fault it was ignored by the press.

Utd's PL FFP? 40 million COVID costs would have been reviewed at a high level. I think the costs have to be audited. Nothing really to see here unless you believe in conspiracy.

Utd's share costs? Same as above, would have been reviewed at a high level and audited presumably. They shouldn't have been included in the club's accounts anyway, but I can't see any rule for allowing them as deductible costs. Bit weird.

Liverpool hacking? Settled between the parties.

Liverpool 50 mill Stanley Park costs? Again, would have been reviewed at high level and probably audited. Seems way too high, though. Also a bit weird.

Chelsea off-books payments? Being investigated. It takes the PL a while, bless them.

Chelsea asset sales? No rule against it in the PL so accepted, but will be disallowed by UEFA. But stupid of the PL. Surprise, not.

Strange player sales at year end? Will be reviewed for arm's length under the threshold payment rules but not sure the PL has the strength for more conflict. Threatened with "good faith" rule, but Leicester ruling may scupper that. Anyway, we will see when the accounts for 2023/24 are reviewed by the PL.

Did I miss anything?

The 40 million is surely way too high. 40 million for missing a US Tour ? What was the next highest ? Should there not be some explanation in some accounts or submissions ? Have other clubs missed a trick ?

 

[Rory Bluelow]

Another day, another shit Guardian article. This time by Sean Ingle. He looks as thick as pigshit in his profile pic and his writing confirms it.

There can be no Goldilocks punishment – Manchester City should either be vindicated or damned | Sean Ingle

The seriousness of the club’s 115 charges by the Premier League leaves no room for a result that lets everyone live with outcome

www.theguardian.com

Yet another heavily biased piece, equating City’s struggles to invest in order to compete, with Organised Russian State-doping of athletes. (Interestingly he seems elevate the importance of the non-cooperation charges above the more substantive ones - are they beginning realise the false accounting stuff will fail I wonder ?).
I agree with his main thrust though, which is either totally exonerate or find against City - no fudges or compromises. Maybe that’s why he’s talking up the more subjective issue around cooperation.