PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

halfcenturyup said:
The thing about the stadium is that it had been planned well before the allegations were referred. If there was any doubt in the club's mind about a severe sporting sanction they never would have announced it. There was plenty of time to shelve the project your cost/benefit reasons or whatever before the allegations were referred. I'm not sure any other implication can be drawn from the project.

It's not a question of not stopping the project that should give confidence, it's more the fact that it was started at all.
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Maybe we thought Stockport could do with a nice extension when they kick us out the leagues, as we will have to groundshare with maine road.
 
mattcity5 said:
Yeah quite possibly, Madrid was at least an attractive option.

The biggest impact though with the charges is perception - making us less attractive to potential sponsors, players and fans.

It's a really hard one to quantify, but if Rice had the option of moving to united when they were at their best, maybe 25 years ago, do we think he'd have chosen a team who'd won fuck all for years ahead of them, just because they were based in London? Wouldn't happen. The press would have been leading him north from the start, praising both him and the club for the move.

We've been shat on for years now. Some players may ignore all that, but I'm sure some along the line have done.
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To be honest It wouldn't surprise me if the odd player we have looked at this summer have said they wanted to stay where they are for another year. The charges may or may not been in the back of their mind amongst other things including Peps contract.Thhose that have moved to other clubs though like the 2 mentioned, I doubt it was the reason.
 
mattcity5 said:
We've been shat on for years now. Some players may ignore all that, but I'm sure some along the line have done.
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That's because whilst players are invested with their time at the club they are unlike fans who are deep down emotionally invested, sometimes our owners/boards fault is they seem oblivious to that.

Sit down
Shut up
Stay in your seat
Say nowt
Playing music over fans talking
Don't be a ****

Watching Pep kicking the fuck out of his chair and nothing said about it? fan stands up at the wrong moment and they can be thrown out.

And then Pep asks where the atmosphere is and why there isn't any noise, you don't get a list of rules at an opera and if they did nobody would bother turning up.

The people that run the club should have been fucking angry at that beer cup of coins incident, but they quite obviously weren't.
 
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halfcenturyup said:
The thing about the stadium is that it had been planned well before the allegations were referred. If there was any doubt in the club's mind about a severe sporting sanction they never would have announced it. There was plenty of time to shelve the project your cost/benefit reasons or whatever before the allegations were referred. I'm not sure any other implication can be drawn from the project.

It's not a question of not stopping the project that should give confidence, it's more the fact that it was started at all.
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I file the stadium renovation news away alongside:

- Masters didn't attend our last day title win 23/24
- Masters "it'll come to natural conclusion" comments
- Khaldoon's apparent body language and comments about irrefutable evidence

Imo we may very well win the case but even if we do, I think we're straw clutching that any of the above is significant in any way at this time. As in, I don't read in to any of them too much at all.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
I file the stadium renovation news away alongside:

- Masters didn't attend our last day title win 23/24
- Masters "it'll come to natural conclusion" comments
- Khaldoon's apparent body language and comments about irrefutable evidence

Imo we may very well win the case but even if we do, I think we're straw clutching that any of the above is significant in any way at this time. As in, I don't read in to any of them too much at all.
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Yes, you are right. A lot of it is straw-clutching, of course.

Just with the exception of the stadium, maybe :)
 
Oldham Exile said:
Of course - you might think that a City fan would say this, but.....


I find your post both confusing and confused.....

Confusing because....

Up front you say that you are not going to post an opinion on the main charges, and then the rest of your post........

Confused because,.......

Well most of it - but particularly your 2nd para - which is, IMO, utterly ill-thought through nonsense
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SatOnTheWall said:
“Not going to post an opinion” but go on to assume we are guilty. That’s some non-opinion. What do think if we are cleared of everything? How much will your club be paying us for the shite we’ve had to put up with? I would accept a nine figure sum off your club. You can afford it. You could sell another hotel, you bent bastards.
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Where in that post do I say you are guilty of the main charges, ? Where have I posted a comment or an opinion of those main charges? I offer a comment on the Mancini issue and will repeat if what has been leaked is indeed correct then it will be down to a judgement call by the IC.

Surely you must grasp those minor issues such as Mancini or the image rights issue aren’t the ones that if proven will lead to massive points deductions, relegation or whatever.

As for the investment in the stadium I personally think with the owners having said from the off that there’s nothing to see here re the charges not to have continued with that investment would be read as strange and the press narrative would not be a positive You clearly don’t see it that way but I would have taken a bet how the wider footballing community would have read such a withdraw

In terms of what happens if as most on here expect all charges are found not proven I doubt that City will pursue the matter of reputational damage, I might be wrong but we will have to wait and see so I very much doubt the problem comes if the charges are indeed proven.

As for selling a hotel no more of them left but if you fancy a Kings Road Penthouse sure we could do a deal
 
Prophet of Doom said:
It’s 95% scripted. They presenters just read off an autocue.

Troy Deeney walked after a couple of weeks refusing to be the stooge reading scripted sensationalised bollocks painted as opinion.in reality he wasn’t allowed to have his own opinion.

Agbonlahoor and Ohara now play the idiots reading off scripts.

All bullshit
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Exactly the same on the politics front, it's regularly being exposed now. The other week Ed Balls reading off the autocue and regurgitating the shite he's hearing down his earpiece. I mean ffs, Ed Balls, thick as two short planks.
 
terraloon said:
Where in that post do I say you are guilty of the main charges, ? Where have I posted a comment or an opinion of those main charges? I offer a comment on the Mancini issue and will repeat if what has been leaked is indeed correct then it will be down to a judgement call by the IC.

Surely you must grasp those minor issues such as Mancini or the image rights issue aren’t the ones that if proven will lead to massive points deductions, relegation or whatever.

As for the investment in the stadium I personally think with the owners having said from the off that there’s nothing to see here re the charges not to have continued with that investment would be read as strange and the press narrative would not be a positive You clearly don’t see it that way but I would have taken a bet how the wider footballing community would have read such a withdraw

In terms of what happens if as most on here expect all charges are found not proven I doubt that City will pursue the matter of reputational damage, I might be wrong but we will have to wait and see so I very much doubt the problem comes if the charges are indeed proven.

As for selling a hotel no more of them left but if you fancy a Kings Road Penthouse sure we could do a deal
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There are very few of us that think we will get off all the charges, but i expect what ever charge they do pin on us ( we all have our favorite ) to be vastly less in cost, than the cost of the 115 case before it went to the panel, would be interesting knowing what the cost is so far:). You can keep your dirty mag, we have the Maine road Hustler.
 
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