PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Jogon 127]

He and his rat faced friend still seem unable to grasp the basic economic principle that a team that won the treble in a season (in the richest league in the world) and added the supercup and club world Cup would maximise their sponsorship income (winners bonuses), maximise their TV income (more games on the box than anybody else so more dosh) and max their trophy winners income all in the same year.
Who does he think should have earned more than City that year? Scousepool for winning the Carabou Cup because they have more fans in Malaysia? Do fuck off Jamie you thick scouse ****. They live in the fantasy land that thinks clubs earn big money from shirt sales. They don't.

Years ago I never thought I’d see the day where we were challenging the top tier on an income basis, but having thought about it, of course it’s to be expected and revelled in, after our owners had this vision all those years ago and credit to them, we’re totally blessed following the best team in the World.

 

[Fordyboy46]

Spitty is clinging on to everything that we get titles taken away from us and handed over to the dippers, knowing that they would have been the 2nd best team those seasons. Fucking hollow achievement Spitty!

 

[Fordyboy46]

I’m sure the anger stage will include the infamous ‘I’m done with football’!

Ha, hope the dipper cunts leave in spades when we get found not guilty. Can you imagine the amount of domestic violence that will go on over in dipperland when we're exonerated, a scary thought!

 

[nmc]

I don’t know anyone who has got away with what he has, he’s up there with Roger Mellie.

 

[halfcenturyup]

I’ve felt for some time that Carragher sails far closer to the wind in terms of what he says about City’s finances than pretty much any other mainstream broadcaster. He’s essentially accusing the club of committing industrial scale fraud there, in terms of our turnover numbers. I don’t think there’s any other reasonable way of evaluating what he’s said there in the penultimate paragraph.

It also exposes an inability (or wilful blindness) to undertake a simple analysis of the numbers, because City’s turnover is essentially pretty simple maths that is significantly made up in recent years of the largest TV revenue of any team in world football and huge levels of prize money, figures for which are readily and publicly available, especially to someone like Carragher. It’s actually pretty straightforward to see where the rump of City’s revenue comes from, given how successful we’ve been over the last decade. Any person with a modicum of understanding about simple accountancy principles should be able to grasp how the numbers are broadly arrived at.

Thinking this through logically, Carragher would certainly not be questioning the club’s turnover if it wasn’t for the subsistence of the 115 charges. They plainly embolden him and provide a gateway for him to do so. On the basis the relevant charges are dismissed ((or equivalent) I also have no doubt that he will desist from questioning the numbers and/or will be restrained from so doing by the legal bods at the various broadcasters he works for. Given all that, if those charges are dismissed, I wonder what steps (if any) the club will take against him personally, given what he has repeatedly said has gone beyond the routine nods, winks and innuendo.

Maybe they’ll just leave it, or simply be happy to accept a public apology, but I do think he’s exposed himself in a way that pretty much the rest of his cohort haven’t.

Just as a little balance, imho, he isn't saying anything libellous, I don't think. Is he? It may be stupid and annoying as fuck to fans, but I just don't see it.

Let's face it, the PL is effectively accusing the club of fraud around sponsorships and, in my view at least, of overstating sponsorships from related parties. What he says may be stupid and uneducated from a financial standpoint, but I don't see how it is causing any damage in the face of the PL allegations which are specific, well documented, understood by you legal professionals and, of course, actually incredibly damaging merely by being alleged.

I may be wrong, but it seems to me he is just a stupid, bitter old man shouting into the wind of the PL allegations.

Best to ignore.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

So Carragher is now implying our tv money figures are false as well? They get paid from his employers SKy and CBS, are they in on the elaborate mass fraud City are accused of as well?

What he fails to understand is even if his beloved dippers and rags have more arm chair fans. City get further into competitions and consistently qualify for the Champions league more than any other side in the PL. More games means more tv money, how hard is that to comprehend?

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

I’ve felt for some time that Carragher sails far closer to the wind in terms of what he says about City’s finances than pretty much any other mainstream broadcaster. He’s essentially accusing the club of committing industrial scale fraud there, in terms of our turnover numbers. I don’t think there’s any other reasonable way of evaluating what he’s said there in the penultimate paragraph.

It also exposes an inability (or wilful blindness) to undertake a simple analysis of the numbers, because City’s turnover is essentially pretty simple maths that is significantly made up in recent years of the largest TV revenue of any team in world football and huge levels of prize money, figures for which are readily and publicly available, especially to someone like Carragher. It’s actually pretty straightforward to see where the rump of City’s revenue comes from, given how successful we’ve been over the last decade. Any person with a modicum of understanding about simple accountancy principles should be able to grasp how the numbers are broadly arrived at.

Thinking this through logically, Carragher would certainly not be questioning the club’s turnover if it wasn’t for the subsistence of the 115 charges. They plainly embolden him and provide a gateway for him to do so. On the basis the relevant charges are dismissed ((or equivalent) I also have no doubt that he will desist from questioning the numbers and/or will be restrained from so doing by the legal bods at the various broadcasters he works for. Given all that, if those charges are dismissed, I wonder what steps (if any) the club will take against him personally, given what he has repeatedly said has gone beyond the routine nods, winks and innuendo.

Maybe they’ll just leave it, or simply be happy to accept a public apology, but I do think he’s exposed himself in a way that pretty much the rest of his cohort haven’t.

Carraghers main issue is he is just not very intelligent. That fact will always go against him. I hope the club take him to the cleaners after the judgement. I would like to see him ruined financially. I have loathed him since the day he spat in that childs face and his employers stood by him. What kind of people do that?

 

[jaiguruKun]

He and his rat faced friend still seem unable to grasp the basic economic principle that a team that won the treble in a season (in the richest league in the world) and added the supercup and club world Cup would maximise their sponsorship income (winners bonuses), maximise their TV income (more games on the box than anybody else so more dosh) and max their trophy winners income all in the same year.
Who does he think should have earned more than City that year? Scousepool for winning the Carabou Cup because they have more fans in Malaysia? Do fuck off Jamie you thick scouse ****. They live in the fantasy land that thinks clubs earn big money from shirt sales. They don't.

What I find most annoying is that no-one has ever been allowed to point out these most basic facts to him and he is allowed to go on these completely ill-informed rants whilst completely unchallenged.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Just as a little balance, imho, he isn't saying anything libellous, I don't think. Is he? It may be stupid and annoying as fuck to fans, but I just don't see it.

Let's face it, the PL is effectively accusing the club of fraud around sponsorships and, in my view at least, of overstating sponsorships from related parties. What he says may be stupid and uneducated from a financial standpoint, but I don't see how it is causing any damage in the face of the PL allegations which are specific, well documented, understood by you legal professionals and, of course, actually incredibly damaging merely by being alleged.

There’s a word of difference between a regulatory body exercising its powers under an agreement and in relation to rules that another party is subject to, which that party has the opportunity to respond to in an agreed setting and format - and a private individual stating on a public broadcast that a business’ turnover figures are false, and thereby dishonestly arrived at.

fwiw (probably not at lot) I think it is libellous, yes, assuming his assertion that the accounts are false is not true, which I’m sure it’s not.

 

[mancboy]

Just as a little balance, imho, he isn't saying anything libellous, I don't think. Is he? It may be stupid and annoying as fuck to fans, but I just don't see it.

Let's face it, the PL is effectively accusing the club of fraud around sponsorships and, in my view at least, of overstating sponsorships from related parties. What he says may be stupid and uneducated from a financial standpoint, but I don't see how it is causing any damage in the face of the PL allegations which are specific, well documented, understood by you legal professionals and, of course, actually incredibly damaging merely by being alleged.

I may be wrong, but it seems to me he is just a stupid, bitter old man shouting into the wind of the PL allegations.

Best to ignore.

Its not libel but it falls under the dictionary definition of defamation, he is asserting that it is impossible that we generate as much as revenue as we do so basically saying not only are our past accounts false but our current ones too.