PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

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We heard you the first time.

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Sorry, don't know about you but I was unable to use BM for a few hours due to gateway problems on BM.
The reply seemed not to have been posted when my access returned.
Apologies to all including yourself.

 

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Meanwhile - back in the warped minds of dippers - it is increasingly clear that there is no question we are bang to rights. They are competing with each other to think up the appropriate punishments we should receive.

I think that this fella is the current leader in the most deluded fuckwit award...........(these cunts actually spend time writing this shit)

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Re: 115 charges for the scorched earth cheating bastards on & off the pitch​

« Reply #9592 on: Today at 01:36:11 pm »

It’s hard to say exactly what the punishment should be, but it should be severe, given the level of cheating, and it should impact them over multiple years, as their cheating went on over multiple years. We all fear a light punishment, but hopefully the Prem will put a real marker down, or else their whole product (ugh) is in jeopardy. My best guess at a right-sized punishment:

1. Titles stripped
2. Can’t decide if those years should be left blank, as a reminder, or the runner up should be awarded the trophy. I see both sides of that one.
3. Compensation awarded to affected clubs who did not get prize money for what they rightfully earned. Arguably this might also include some sort of formula for other related earnings that were missed out on, such as sponsorship, etc. But Man City need to pay compensation to the teams they cheated.
4. Relegation. Either kicked out of the Premier League on principle, due to egregious cheating and ongoing bad faith litigation OR relegated via significant points deduction, and there have been a couple of precedents for much lesser transgressions at other clubs.

They are now relegated, so then what happens?

1. It is important that they don’t bounce back right away. The cheating went on for multiple years, so the punishment should hurt them over multiple years too.
2. Relegation to the bottom of the Football league pyramid, and they are only welcome in that competition if they abide by their financial regulations. But it would be the old fourth division/league two.
3. In the event that they eventually win promotion back to the Premier League it would come with conditions - open the books since 2018. If not, based on track record, it cannot be assumed they are in order, so no admittance to the Prem.
4. Assuming they get back in another condition must be that their annual books would need to be approved by a team of forensic accountants.
5. There should also be a condition on frivolous, or bad-faith litigation. Man City have forced the Premier League to pay many millions in legal fees, and to get tied up in countless thousands of man-hours, just to try to deal with them. That all needs to stop, or they can’t come back in.

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

The FT article reminds us again of the enormous revenues that the PL, UEFA and FIFA rake in from football. No wonder they show little appetite for reducing the demands placed on players. Yet, as governing bodies this is an aspect of the game for which they have a responsibility. Instead they show an appetite for regulating investment, profitability, sustainability and sponsorship and they draw some very nice revenue, especially from the latter. Is it not a matter for the gravest concern that "governing bodies" should see themselves as regulators in areas in which they are so greedily active? Are they not regulators at all, but rather commercial rivals of the very clubs they seek to regulate? And do they do this fairly, with the blindfolded eyes of justice? Or do they do it to favour the clubs who helped them at the start of the process which made them so rich? Is it not this evident contempt for fair play which is turning football into a legal battleground?

 

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Sorry, don't know about you but I was unable to use BM for a few hours due to gateway problems on BM.
The reply seemed not to have been posted when my access returned.
Apologies to all including yourself.

No dramas Mr Schofield.

 

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Meanwhile - back in the warped minds of dippers - it is increasingly clear that there is no question we are bang to rights. They are competing with each other to think up the appropriate punishments we should receive.

I think that this fella is the current leader in the most deluded fuckwit award...........(these cunts actually spend time writing this shit)

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Re: 115 charges for the scorched earth cheating bastards on & off the pitch​

« Reply #9592 on: Today at 01:36:11 pm »

It’s hard to say exactly what the punishment should be, but it should be severe, given the level of cheating, and it should impact them over multiple years, as their cheating went on over multiple years. We all fear a light punishment, but hopefully the Prem will put a real marker down, or else their whole product (ugh) is in jeopardy. My best guess at a right-sized punishment:

1. Titles stripped
2. Can’t decide if those years should be left blank, as a reminder, or the runner up should be awarded the trophy. I see both sides of that one.
3. Compensation awarded to affected clubs who did not get prize money for what they rightfully earned. Arguably this might also include some sort of formula for other related earnings that were missed out on, such as sponsorship, etc. But Man City need to pay compensation to the teams they cheated.
4. Relegation. Either kicked out of the Premier League on principle, due to egregious cheating and ongoing bad faith litigation OR relegated via significant points deduction, and there have been a couple of precedents for much lesser transgressions at other clubs.

They are now relegated, so then what happens?

1. It is important that they don’t bounce back right away. The cheating went on for multiple years, so the punishment should hurt them over multiple years too.
2. Relegation to the bottom of the Football league pyramid, and they are only welcome in that competition if they abide by their financial regulations. But it would be the old fourth division/league two.
3. In the event that they eventually win promotion back to the Premier League it would come with conditions - open the books since 2018. If not, based on track record, it cannot be assumed they are in order, so no admittance to the Prem.
4. Assuming they get back in another condition must be that their annual books would need to be approved by a team of forensic accountants.
5. There should also be a condition on frivolous, or bad-faith litigation. Man City have forced the Premier League to pay many millions in legal fees, and to get tied up in countless thousands of man-hours, just to try to deal with them. That all needs to stop, or they can’t come back in.

What an absolute bell end. He’s actually thought all that through and wrote it down with the correct punctuation and everything like he’s a fully functioning member of society. Just goes to show you can’t always tell.

 

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What an absolute bell end. He’s actually thought all that through and wrote it down with the correct punctuation and everything like he’s a fully functioning member of society. Just goes to show you can’t always tell.

Yep

That is not just a screaming rant - he's thought that through

That's why have him leading the bellend competition - but he has a lot of competition from fellow cunts

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

Meanwhile - back in the warped minds of dippers - it is increasingly clear that there is no question we are bang to rights. They are competing with each other to think up the appropriate punishments we should receive.

I think that this fella is the current leader in the most deluded fuckwit award...........(these cunts actually spend time writing this shit)

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Re: 115 charges for the scorched earth cheating bastards on & off the pitch​

« Reply #9592 on: Today at 01:36:11 pm »

It’s hard to say exactly what the punishment should be, but it should be severe, given the level of cheating, and it should impact them over multiple years, as their cheating went on over multiple years. We all fear a light punishment, but hopefully the Prem will put a real marker down, or else their whole product (ugh) is in jeopardy. My best guess at a right-sized punishment:

1. Titles stripped
2. Can’t decide if those years should be left blank, as a reminder, or the runner up should be awarded the trophy. I see both sides of that one.
3. Compensation awarded to affected clubs who did not get prize money for what they rightfully earned. Arguably this might also include some sort of formula for other related earnings that were missed out on, such as sponsorship, etc. But Man City need to pay compensation to the teams they cheated.
4. Relegation. Either kicked out of the Premier League on principle, due to egregious cheating and ongoing bad faith litigation OR relegated via significant points deduction, and there have been a couple of precedents for much lesser transgressions at other clubs.

They are now relegated, so then what happens?

1. It is important that they don’t bounce back right away. The cheating went on for multiple years, so the punishment should hurt them over multiple years too.
2. Relegation to the bottom of the Football league pyramid, and they are only welcome in that competition if they abide by their financial regulations. But it would be the old fourth division/league two.
3. In the event that they eventually win promotion back to the Premier League it would come with conditions - open the books since 2018. If not, based on track record, it cannot be assumed they are in order, so no admittance to the Prem.
4. Assuming they get back in another condition must be that their annual books would need to be approved by a team of forensic accountants.
5. There should also be a condition on frivolous, or bad-faith litigation. Man City have forced the Premier League to pay many millions in legal fees, and to get tied up in countless thousands of man-hours, just to try to deal with them. That all needs to stop, or they can’t come back in.

Gosh, what would the punishment be for more serious offences ... like murder, or multiple murder!

 

[Bluewonder]

Meanwhile - back in the warped minds of dippers - it is increasingly clear that there is no question we are bang to rights. They are competing with each other to think up the appropriate punishments we should receive.

I think that this fella is the current leader in the most deluded fuckwit award...........(these cunts actually spend time writing this shit)

G Richards​

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Re: 115 charges for the scorched earth cheating bastards on & off the pitch​

« Reply #9592 on: Today at 01:36:11 pm »

It’s hard to say exactly what the punishment should be, but it should be severe, given the level of cheating, and it should impact them over multiple years, as their cheating went on over multiple years. We all fear a light punishment, but hopefully the Prem will put a real marker down, or else their whole product (ugh) is in jeopardy. My best guess at a right-sized punishment:

1. Titles stripped
2. Can’t decide if those years should be left blank, as a reminder, or the runner up should be awarded the trophy. I see both sides of that one.
3. Compensation awarded to affected clubs who did not get prize money for what they rightfully earned. Arguably this might also include some sort of formula for other related earnings that were missed out on, such as sponsorship, etc. But Man City need to pay compensation to the teams they cheated.
4. Relegation. Either kicked out of the Premier League on principle, due to egregious cheating and ongoing bad faith litigation OR relegated via significant points deduction, and there have been a couple of precedents for much lesser transgressions at other clubs.

They are now relegated, so then what happens?

1. It is important that they don’t bounce back right away. The cheating went on for multiple years, so the punishment should hurt them over multiple years too.
2. Relegation to the bottom of the Football league pyramid, and they are only welcome in that competition if they abide by their financial regulations. But it would be the old fourth division/league two.
3. In the event that they eventually win promotion back to the Premier League it would come with conditions - open the books since 2018. If not, based on track record, it cannot be assumed they are in order, so no admittance to the Prem.
4. Assuming they get back in another condition must be that their annual books would need to be approved by a team of forensic accountants.
5. There should also be a condition on frivolous, or bad-faith litigation. Man City have forced the Premier League to pay many millions in legal fees, and to get tied up in countless thousands of man-hours, just to try to deal with them. That all needs to stop, or they can’t come back in.

He's spent a good half hour thinking about and writing that spiel but is so uninformed that he doesn't realise the club's accounts are publicly available on Companies House and said accounts are audited by an independent firm of accountants.

I really hope he didn't give up his day job.

 

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What an absolute bell end. He’s actually thought all that through and wrote it down with the correct punctuation and everything like he’s a fully functioning member of society. Just goes to show you can’t always tell.

Surely the thread he is posting on has not yet considered we might not be guilty so perhaps his listing allows him to win the outcome of the thread competition?

 

[Brendan110_0]

Meanwhile - back in the warped minds of dippers - it is increasingly clear that there is no question we are bang to rights. They are competing with each other to think up the appropriate punishments we should receive.

I think that this fella is the current leader in the most deluded fuckwit award...........(these cunts actually spend time writing this shit)

G Richards​

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Re: 115 charges for the scorched earth cheating bastards on & off the pitch​

« Reply #9592 on: Today at 01:36:11 pm »

It’s hard to say exactly what the punishment should be, but it should be severe, given the level of cheating, and it should impact them over multiple years, as their cheating went on over multiple years. We all fear a light punishment, but hopefully the Prem will put a real marker down, or else their whole product (ugh) is in jeopardy. My best guess at a right-sized punishment:

1. Titles stripped
2. Can’t decide if those years should be left blank, as a reminder, or the runner up should be awarded the trophy. I see both sides of that one.
3. Compensation awarded to affected clubs who did not get prize money for what they rightfully earned. Arguably this might also include some sort of formula for other related earnings that were missed out on, such as sponsorship, etc. But Man City need to pay compensation to the teams they cheated.
4. Relegation. Either kicked out of the Premier League on principle, due to egregious cheating and ongoing bad faith litigation OR relegated via significant points deduction, and there have been a couple of precedents for much lesser transgressions at other clubs.

They are now relegated, so then what happens?

1. It is important that they don’t bounce back right away. The cheating went on for multiple years, so the punishment should hurt them over multiple years too.
2. Relegation to the bottom of the Football league pyramid, and they are only welcome in that competition if they abide by their financial regulations. But it would be the old fourth division/league two.
3. In the event that they eventually win promotion back to the Premier League it would come with conditions - open the books since 2018. If not, based on track record, it cannot be assumed they are in order, so no admittance to the Prem.
4. Assuming they get back in another condition must be that their annual books would need to be approved by a team of forensic accountants.
5. There should also be a condition on frivolous, or bad-faith litigation. Man City have forced the Premier League to pay many millions in legal fees, and to get tied up in countless thousands of man-hours, just to try to deal with them. That all needs to stop, or they can’t come back in.

These cunts got every English team banned in Europe for 5 years. Where is their compensation? Fucking gall on the cunts.