PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[halfcenturyup]

Yes. It is simply not close to the criminal standard

So you aren't saying Teare was wrong in the Suez case, but it's wrong as a general principle ...... ? That I can understand .... unless it's bollocks :)

 

[CC1]

Woah someone’s been on the Christmas sherry :D

:-)

 

[BamberBridgeBlue]

The anti-CITY agenda on the radio and wider media is deep-rooted and systemic (yes, I know - statement of the obvious). I had 5-live on in the car and someone was reporting on Leicester's loss to Wolves and that there next games are against Liverpool and CITY - the host quickly (and in a snide way) came back with - well against CITY that is a guaranteed 3 points for Ruud.

I know I may be being over-sensitive - but it is non-stop

Prediction for 2025, although Newcastle have never done us any favours in the past, the two clubs and fan bases come together against the tyranny of the American Majority. As another thread points out, likely the 25/26 Premier League will have 12 American owned teams. The media is bought and paid for. Journalism is dead. Free speech has all but gone. Merry Christmas.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

The anti-CITY agenda on the radio and wider media is deep-rooted and systemic (yes, I know - statement of the obvious). I had 5-live on in the car and someone was reporting on Leicester's loss to Wolves and that there next games are against Liverpool and CITY - the host quickly (and in a snide way) came back with - well against CITY that is a guaranteed 3 points for Ruud.

I know I may be being over-sensitive - but it is non-stop

Iv heard City fans say the same tbf

 

[slbsn]

So you aren't saying Teare was wrong in the Suez case, but it's wrong as a general principle ...... ? That I can understand .... unless it's bollocks :)

I don’t think Teare says anything like it is the criminal standard. In fact, the case is expressly clear that the standard is BoP. I think the text book is interpreting the cases incorrectly and largely, inexplicably.

 

[SilverFox2]

My 17 year old daughter reminded me the other day that I had said to her a couple of years ago that - whilst I was of course glad that she sees CITY winning all the time, I feel she is missing out and she will never appreciate what we FOCs had to go through seeing (and expecting) CITY to lose all the time.

FFS - she thinks this is bad;-)

My dad toldme supporting City is character building. I have to say he was right just at the time I had somehow got used to our success.

 

[Keith Moon]

First off I would be amazed if he could hack the UAE Executive Affairs.

Second he wouldn’t use his UAE Executive Affairs email unless he was doing something wrong and expecting to be caught.

Pinto thought he had evidence yet it turned out to be nothing at CAS.

Info has been passed to authorities yet nothing has happened so it wasn’t anything.

Finally you’re saying he is holding stuff back as life insurance leaving aside the accusation that he would be got rid of by the sheik.

Carnt have it both ways he has passed everything on to authorities we screwed and he is holding something back

If he is holding it back as insurance then we don’t need to worry do we as he will keep hold of it.

I go back to my point he would have passed it on by now and we would know if it was anything.

To me your post reads either not very incoherent a rag or conspiracy theorist

It's not that difficult; for the Premier League to succeed where UEFA failed, they need better evidence. There is one person who claims to have proof that City deliberately violated the rules, and that person is Pinto—the same man responsible for us being in this situation. Moreover, he stands to gain significantly on a personal level if we are found guilty. So, if there's anything that should worry all Blues in this case, it's the new information Pinto might have contributed after CAS. You don't have to be a rag or a conspiracy theorist to come to that conclusion.

 

[auction294]

What that says to me is theres over the top security policies in place which causes the weaking of overall security of the business. If you ever feel the need to use insecure methods in business then the security team have failed massive and needs replacing

Not wanting to hijack the thread but "over the top security policies" really? What does 'insecure methods' even mean? Wrong on so many levels.

back on topic, talk of 'charges' and 'cheating' is also wrong on many levels. Cheating is fielding 14 outfield players and 2 Goalkeepers, or bribing a match official, and as far as I can remember we haven't done either. We have supposedly not abided by 'rules' that weren't in force until we disrupted the cartel and their cosy world.

As for 'charges' other posters have eloquently written that the feasibility of a coordinated, collaboration of multiple organisations and senior individuals to conspire to commit fraud is literally laughable.

I remind myself constantly the legitimacy of the proceedings should be questioned, not City. Any organisation or individual can fall foul of laws or regulations if these are applied retrospectively with the intent to cause prejudice or damage be that reputationally or otherwise. Remembering that when the cartel dominated there was no need for the rules, not even when Jack Walker blew the rags away.

While I'm on my soapbox. Talk of Lord Pannick and his day rate has been discussed. His fee and that of the legal team should be put into perspective. Whilst the figures are eye watering no doubt, but they are not anything remarkable for him or the firms participating.

5 years ago the top fee earners at one of the firms representing City were commanding around 10k per day. I was with one of these Firms in 2019 at their Hong Kong office at the closing of a Merger to the value of 50Bn. I'm not privy to the details of both sides legal fees but assuming the legal fees, for both parties were at 2% of the Merger value combined between both representative firms then the costs whilst substantial (1Bn) the actual cost to the deal was not. My point being, Lord Pannicks day rate seems a big deal, but to him and his firm, not so much.

back to sacking our security team ..... I don't remember it being City's IT taken down for almost 1 month due to a ransomware attack. That dubious honour goes to United. Strange but true they approached me to head up their Cyber Security not long after - to be clear I said no.

 

[cheekybids]

Just a soft signal. Not saying more and maybe shouldn't have said on that basis but soft signals are really all we have.

Left outside the main entrance & blue cones for the January signings.

 

[halfcenturyup]

It's not that difficult; for the Premier League to succeed where UEFA failed, they need better evidence. There is one person who claims to have proof that City deliberately violated the rules, and that person is Pinto—the same man responsible for us being in this situation. Moreover, he stands to gain significantly on a personal level if we are found guilty. So, if there's anything that should worry all Blues in this case, it's the new information Pinto might have contributed after CAS. You don't have to be a rag or a conspiracy theorist to come to that conclusion.

He was arrested in 2019 wasn't he? And on trial in 2020? I find it hard to believe he would still be in possession of his hacked material after the CAS verdict. And I still doubt he would have anything in his information that isn't available to the PL from its investigation anyway. Really nothing to worry about, I think.