PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[Prestwich_Blue]

I thought there was a shortlist of people possible.
I thought City suggested using one who was familiar with the case from an earlier CAS hearing (maybe the familiarity was hoped to speed things along), and UEFA weren't against having that person, so it was an agreement from both sides.

There's a finite list of approved arbitrators (about 60 I think) and a subset of those that were best qualified to adjudicate in our particular case (let's say 20). So the panel could only come from that 20-person pool. And two of those had already been picked, one by us and the other by UEFA.

The process was that someone had to suggest a name, with the other party having the right to veto that choice. Had UEFA vetoed our choice of Rui Botica Santos, and had both parties failed to agree on another choice, then CAS would have selected a chair.

Its like going out for a meal with your mates or wife.
You: "Do you fancy Indian, Italian or Chinese?"
Wife: "I fancy a Chinese."
You "I'm fine with that".

Then afterwards you complain that your arm was twisted, you didn't want Chinese and you'd rather have gone for a pizza.

 

[wolviedinho]

This is exactly where I am

There is no doubt in my mind - should fairness and objectivity prevail - we will be completely exonerated, but........

I am not expecting fairness and I worry that we might end up 'howling in the wind' for years about the unfair treatment - whilst the fans of the red shirt clubs exult

I even see this YouTube video as possibly part of an orchestrated campaign to set the narrative that suits them

No matter the reality - it will have confirmed in the minds of many people that CITY chose 2 of the 3 CAS judges and that is why we 'got off on a technicality'

I absolutely do not share the confidence of others that we will prevail against the orchestrated campaign - and I am normally such a positive thinking person

They can’t prove anything without documented evidence which they don’t have. Interpretation of said documents don’t mean Jack shit.

All smoke and no fire me thinks. They set a financial trap and we expertly circumvented until a thief stole data and they tried to make a fictional account become reality.

Media orchestrate what we are supposed to think and feel by daily bombardment.

Don’t worry bout it -:)

 

[tregyblue61]

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Just … enjoy.

Treble winners, never forget and will always bring a smile.

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

If the evidence was as slam dunk as some of the journalists attached to this story claim it is then we wouldn't be seeing the snippets of emails out of context and the insinuations on a dodgy funded YouTube doc. We'd simply see the evidence. I don't think City have always had their noses clean during this process, especially in the early years, but I don't think the widespread corruption that some of this lot seem to take a priori is right either.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

This is exactly where I am

There is no doubt in my mind - should fairness and objectivity prevail - we will be completely exonerated, but........

I am not expecting fairness and I worry that we might end up 'howling in the wind' for years about the unfair treatment - whilst the fans of the red shirt clubs exult

I even see this YouTube video as possibly part of an orchestrated campaign to set the narrative that suits them

No matter the reality - it will have confirmed in the minds of many people that CITY chose 2 of the 3 CAS judges and that is why we 'got off on a technicality'

I absolutely do not share the confidence of others that we will prevail against the orchestrated campaign - and I am normally such a positive thinking person

This.
YT video is to undermine the CAS verdict. Why?
With nowhere to appeal to the PL panel returning any verdict they choose, will be taken as red (sic)

The media will then endorse it and call for our blood.

Hope not, but it is not beyond the realms of possibility.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

it’s laughable that the premier league are going after City who have been good for their product and pushed up how much they can demand for tv rights around the world. City have pushed up the standards of the league and provided the broadcasters with some iconic moments in title races that have happened over the last decade.

The clubs that want us fucked over, they couldn’t care about the premier league. United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs they all wanted to push on with destroying the football pyramid across Europe and having a closed shop for themselves because non of them have come up with ideas to counter City’s growth since 2008. They wanted to kill off English football and have a Super league, this seems to be conveniently forgotten about whilst everyone froths at the mouth over £30 million quid was sponsorship or equity which didn’t exactly get City over the line when they were posting losses of £118 million. If City are supposedly guilty here what advantage moving forward did they have when the club has coughed up nearly £60 million in fines to Uefa?

What City are in the dock for is small change for what the rest of the so called big six have been up to. They haven’t received any sanction from the Premier league for attempting to destroy their product.

 

[Oldham Exile]

This.
YT video is to undermine the CAS verdict. Why?
With nowhere to appeal to the PL panel returning any verdict they choose, will be taken as red (sic)

The media will then endorse it and call for our blood.

Hope not, but it is not beyond the realms of possibility.

Agreed - I fear that the explicit intention of the YT video was to establish/strengthen the narrative that the CAS verdict was wrong and 'achieved' by CITY through a mixture of obfuscation to cause delays and compromising the integrity and make-up of the panel

Therefore if the PL panel come forward with some entirely biased / anti-CITY verdict and punishment - rather than the result be challenged and considered perverse - the majority view would be - well done - the PL showed more backbone than UEFA

Just hope that I am wrong

 

[pauls]

Agreed - I fear that the explicit intention of the YT video was to establish/strengthen the narrative that the CAS verdict was wrong and 'achieved' by CITY through a mixture of obfuscation to cause delays and compromising the integrity and make-up of the panel

Therefore if the PL panel come forward with some entirely biased / anti-CITY verdict and punishment - rather than the result be challenged and considered perverse - the majority view would be - well done - the PL showed more backbone than UEFA

Just hope that I am wrong

Even Jordan acknowledged it was a clearly one sided production.For me the fact they couldn't get the correct number of years of success between the takeover and 1976 might seem innocuous bit as a consequence how believable is the rest of it.

 

[Newman Noggs]

What the media have sought to do from the beginning is make this into a quasi-public enquiry. And there's a reason for that. Public enquiries are always initiated at the behest of the loudest pressure group and will always reach the outcome that pressure group is demanding. It keeps the unruly rabble off the backs of the politicians.

The one decision the PL can't, and in my opinion, won't reach, is that we've breached no rules. All Hell would come raining down on them.

 

[East Level 2]

He'll have something up his sleeve. Pretty sure the smile at the end of his, end of season message was a " I'm gunning for them, don't worry "

Perhaps he has, but I'm getting weary of all the shit being thrown at City.
I should be spending the summer with a selection of thoughts running through my head:
Standing on row 7, near the corner flag, with everybody screaming for a penalty as the ball breaks to Rodri then all hell breaks loose.
Twenty minutes later in the same position not having a clue how Lumpapoo missed that chance until it was shown on the screen.
Block 534 at Wembley watching Gundo hit the winner in the FA Cup final.
Reliving many home games with the view from my seat.
And fans from all over praising us. Not rags and dippers, or even Arsenal, but the rest as we've shown the monopoly can be broken. But instead I've had months of legal bullshit clouding our magnificence and that's why I want more public defiance from the club.
So many arguments are being dismantled on here by supporters who only have a basic knowledge of what is going on. The club has the full details and should ridicule our accusers at every opportunity. City clearly want to grow the "global brand", but shit sticks, and there is a lot of shit being thrown in our direction.

 

[Oldham Exile]

Even Jordan acknowledged it was a clearly one sided production.For me the fact they couldn't get the correct number of years of success between the takeover and 1976 might seem innocuous bit as a consequence how believable is the rest of it.

If you look at the associated threads on the forums or other clubs - very believable

Of course - we know it is drivel - but we are not the target audience - it is doing what I suspect is the intended job - get the fans elsewhere clear in their minds that we 'got away with it' previously - but might not with the PL

It creates a situation where the PL can be OTT and be applauded - rather than scrutinised

 

[Jacko1956]

This.
YT video is to undermine the CAS verdict. Why?
With nowhere to appeal to the PL panel returning any verdict they choose, will be taken as red (sic)

The media will then endorse it and call for our blood.

Hope not, but it is not beyond the realms of possibility.

Pretty obvious that the commission is struggling to find any thing conclusive to charge us with and no doubt they are keeping their pay masters up to date ! Hence another smear campaign just hope when we're found innocent of any wrong doing that City go after the clubs who lead this with legal action for defamation to the clubs name and image ! They hate us cause we're owned by Arab's who are showing the shabby debt ridden American model how to really run a successful football club !

 

[BeerIsTheBest]

BBC reporting that the Prem powers have accepted Newcastles sHirt sponsors …. with the sponsors obvious links to the Barcodes owners.
Another chink appears in the wall of criticism against us.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

BBC reporting that the Prem powers have accepted Newcastles sHirt sponsors …. with the sponsors obvious links to the Barcodes owners.
Another chink appears in the wall of criticism against us.

With the emergence of the Saudi threat - the FA are finally realising they have a business to run/protect and investors to attract - not to simply kowtow to the nostalgic rantings and jealousy of the blazer clubs.

 

[west didsblue]

It will be very interesting if those who funded the YT video became known. It's obviously on YT rather than on TV because if it was on TV they would presumably have to disclose more information about who commissioned it. It's quite slick presentation so it obviously wasn't done on the cheap by amateurs. The fact that they are hiding its backers is a strong suggestion that it is part of the ongoing campaign against us, with the latest part of it seeking to delegitimise the findings of CAS. I would be very surprised if the video's funders are not connected to at least one of the red clubs. I think the aims are to keep the finger of suspicion pointing at us even if the 115 charges are dismissed. If/when that happens there will probably be another YT video from a similar source to explain why we're really guilty and why we only got off on a technicality. Sadly there will be no end to the accusations whatever happens.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

It will be very interesting if those who funded the YT video became known. It's obviously on YT rather than on TV because if it was on TV they would presumably have to disclose more information about who commissioned it. It's quite slick presentation so it obviously wasn't done on the cheap by amateurs. The fact that they are hiding its backers is a strong suggestion that it is part of the ongoing campaign against us, with the latest part of it seeking to delegitimise the findings of CAS. I would be very surprised if the video's funders are not connected to at least one of the red clubs. I think the aims are to keep the finger of suspicion pointing at us even if the 115 charges are dismissed. If/when that happens there will probably be another YT video from a similar source to explain why we're really guilty and why we only got off on a technicality. Sadly there will be no end to the accusations whatever happens.

So what?

 

[denislawsbackheel]

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Yeah I am getting the feeling of so fkin what! They're going to throw this shit as long as we're too good for them. Lets hope for a fine, that will boil their heads so much.

 

[west didsblue]

So what?

It’s just a bit tiresome - no big deal.