PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[jrb]

Once it’s all over I’d love to see Mancini on I’m a celebrity get me out of here. He could tell some great stories around the camp fire.

 

[meltonblue]

Common sense says the Premier league would be mad to belittle their "product" by finding the club that has dominated their "product" for a decade guilty of cheating.
If we suffer any punishment it will make the Premier league a laughing stock , and if the Premier league fail to punish us they will be a laughing stock to just the Rags & Dippers , the impending verdict on our charges will explain who runs the Premier league , two self entitled clubs or the other eighteen who make up the league.

I don’t think it will. The premier league don’t have a say in what the commission decides in terms of guilt or punishment. Just got to wait and see what the judgment says, I wouldn’t be surprised if it makes the premier league look a laughing stock for some of it. Other parts of it less so.

 

[Bald fraud]

Once it’s all over I’d love to see Mancini on I’m a celebrity get me out of here. He could tell some great stories around the camp fire.

Only this

 

[ancoats]

Yep. See you in the Parkside for a couple of pre-match scoops

£1 a pint

 

[Blue Maverick]

So what’s the general feeling then now after what’s happened to Everton?

 

[johnnytapia]

PB - apologies if this has already been answered but just whilst you're here...

Do you have knowledge of how the panel works in terms of "who goes first", IE does the Premier League out their evidence across and we then defend ourselves? Or do we show all of our submissions which we believe proves us to have acted legally and they then get the opportunity to pick holes and attack our submissions?

Appreciate how criminal trials work but just wonder if this is the same?

How the panel works:

 

[Silva61]

Justice for the

Not sure, given their history at a certain Belgian stadium, that you should be using the words 'Liverpool' and 'push' in the same sentence.

29/05/85..... A bad day for football you goofy gurning twat.

 

[cheekybids]

Does no one think that maybe, just maybe, we did break a few rules?

No - otherwise we’d have been done by now.

Clever accounting, bending the rules is a perfectly reasonable response to an organisation trying to use accounting rules to stop progress.

We’ve been investigated more than any other organisation & these are the only things they can throw at us.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

Does no one think that maybe, just maybe, we did break a few rules?

Yes imo, but them proving it to the required standard of proof is a totally different matter.

 

[BamberBridgeBlue]

Does no one think that maybe, just maybe, we did break a few rules?

Rules put there for one purpose only? I fucking hope so. Now prove it.

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

Th outcome of the Everton appeal will be the catalyst , if they reduce the punishment to a transfer ban and fine then that will be the precedent , if they find us guilty on minor administive issues and we get a transfer fan and fine then we may have to settle for that
We will still be labelled cheats , even if we beat every charge we will still be labelled cheats , the die has been cast , but the record books will only state one thing , CHAMPIONS OF ENGLAND ,EUROPE & THE WORLD 2023 , read it and weep red 'istree clubs.

 

[cheekybids]

When I get a speeding fine I don’t say everyone speeds and refuse to pay it…

Some people in here are talking like there’s a huge miscarriage of justice going on. I mean come on!

Would you pay it if a copper knocks on the door and says we’ve had complaints of speeding & we can see you have a fast car. We want you to tell us how many times you’ve been speeding?

When you tell him to fuck off you get 115 charges in the post for things like speeding, failing to wear a seat belt, drive without care & attention.

Everyone says you must have done it with that many charges.

 

[Stoned Rose]

This is the start of the end game and the process where the whole thing will have disappeared by the end of the season. And we continue as normal in the PL and Champions League.

Liverpool's lawyers know only too well the legal position. Other clubs' lawyers know only too well the legal position. They will share and agree with the same view as our very own legal expert,Stefan ie. the bar is very high if not impossible for the IC to prove the charges.

The clamour about the charges will intensify this weekend and other clubs will follow Liverpool's lead. The media will support them and the pressure for resolution will be intense. There is no way the media will let this go on to the end of the season. It's tarnishing the PL etc, TV rights negotions will be impacted, uncertainty for clubs about CL places etc etc. But,as I said the other day and as surprising as it might sound,Liverpool are on our side with this .

The Premier League will somehow get round whatever the legal implications might be and instruct the IC to stop everything. The culmination will be the vote of the PL members supporting the withdrawal of all charges and Manchester City will be in the clear.

There will be a major PR exercise supporting the clubs position, retaining as much credibility as possible and also most importantly protecting our reputation. Heads will inevitably roll at the Premier League Fuck knows what will happen to Chelsea but they've admitted guilt.

A very interesting take and very boldly asserted.

I like it.

 

[johnnytapia]

Correct. Not sure how we would’ve benefited in any way by concealing payments to Mancini?

Probably stopped Les Chapman having a hissy fit slightly earlier than planned.

 

[Shirley]

Yep. See you in the Parkside for a couple of pre-match scoops

Cheers
Can’t remember the last time I had a pint of Holts…..maybe I’ve got Holtsiemers…….

 

[meltonblue]

Does no one think that maybe, just maybe, we did break a few rules?

I’ve never not thought that tbh, there’s not enough in the public domain to say with certainty either way.

Personally I’d be very annoyed if some of the sponsorship stuff was true though as it should
have been unnecessary.

 

[Pontypool Blue]

Haha. Cunts.

The victims have form for pushing

 

[ancoats]

Can Manchester City revisit the Crime Liverpool FC was involved in when they were caught Hacking our accounts?
Maybe we can find more evidence than what we first fought happened . Could we make something stick, I bet if we got somebody to look hard enough and revisit the crime we will find something else, Then we could ask the Premier League to investigate or let the Police get involved,

Did we show weakness in settling out-of-court ? because if Liverpool found City snooping around their account all hell would break loose.

 

[cheekybids]

I haven’t reviewed all 115 charges no and before you jump all over that I would bet my house 90% of people posting in here haven’t either.

From what I have read I think we did employ Mancini after he was sacked in an advisory role. How much of the role was to counter FFP or was really a job in itself only Mancini and city know. My hunch is it’s what’s called “creative accounting”. Does that mean the charge will stick? Who knows but I equally don’t think that charge is so unfair gross miscarriage of justice.

Anyway apologies if I’ve come across arrogant I just find a lot of posters in this thread only want to deal in theatrics.

Mancini was previously employed in an advisory role & it may well be that we did it for the reason they suspect. However that doesn’t make it wrong if all contracted, legal & Mancini provided the services he was paid for.

 

[meltonblue]

Mancini was previously employed in an advisory role & it may well be that we did it for the reason they suspect. However that doesn’t make it wrong if all contracted, legal & Mancini provided the services he was paid for.

Not just that, it’s also the invoices.