PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[moggymoz]

Listen to what you are saying. It makes no sense.
The ball had been passed to City players for them to make an attempt at goal, they were stopped from taking the shot because of unlawful challenges.
It's the same, exactly the same.
You saying that because Gvardiol hadn't put the ball under his control the defender has the right to take him out?

What the fuck has this got to do with this threads topic.

 

[manimanc]

100%, it would look even worse for the league if they withdrew the charges now, a PR disaster.

Let's be honest they've already made a soup sandwich of everything that's happened recently.

 

[Chris in London]

Probably, the worst case for many of the older charges is we could be found guilty of the offence but not punished because of the time bar. But I hold that many of the older charges were there to put us in a bad light as a perennial lieing and cheating organisation.

No. Either the conduct was concealed deliberately in which case the limitation period is basically irrelevant, or it wasn’t concealed deliberately in which case (a) the claim is statute barred and (b) the claim fails on the merits in any event. There’s no middle ground where we get found guilty but not punished.

 

[burning blue soul]

What the fuck has this got to do with this threads topic.

I got in too deep and too far to pull the handbrake on the off topic slide. Won't happen again.
Talking of handbrakes, my Nissan is jumping slightly when I engage the electronic handbrake. Anyone know anything about this?

 

[bigA]

Circumcised or entire?

Couldn't have been circumcised. Rumour has it that he went for a circumcision and the surgeon said it was fucking impossible as there is no end to this prick.

 

[Paladin]

It was absolutely not a penalty in any way. They ran into each other after Gvardiol had attempted a pot shot from a cross. It was a ludicrously poor decision and smacked of a refereeing team that has never played the game.

Are you saying only people who have played the game know what a foul is? I'm sure the individual members of the refereeing team will have played football at some point in their lives. Or is there a certain level of football you need to have played at in order to determine that this incident shouldn't have been a penalty?

99% of fans - 99% of whom have never been paid to play football - don't think it was a penalty. No specialist football knowledge is needed for that opinion. The referee yesterday simply made a bad call. His playing experience has nothing to do with it.

Edit. Not sure why this is in the charges thread.

 

[wolviedinho]

Does anyone think the PL will still go ahead with the case if the rumours are true just to save some face and to give the impression the PL tried to charge City with the 115 allegations, rather than just giving up and trying to agree a deal with City in private? UEFA tried again and lost at CAS. There are numerous instances of this happening with the Police, the CPS, newspapers and other organisations that knew they were wrong and wouldn’t win the case, but they still went ahead with the case and lost.

Uefa didn’t really give a shit about how the case went as long as they got an “Arab” to pay up. Apologies if that offends. Driven by Munich and Tebas, leaking like a sieve and appointing dodgy characters to execute us on sight. They got their money and managed to stop a super league for now.

The premier is our bread and butter. Anything really damaging that comes out of this would be a fatal wound to both club and league for which both would struggle to recover. It’s madness, the league should have taken the easy way out after CAS. Quick statement saying they respect the independent decisions and support their champions. Oh no that was not allowed, spurs and the rest constantly in their ears to move the goalposts out of jealously and probably some racism.

IMO the line will be that they had a duty to investigate the claims of false accounting. City did not provide the information requested and it went to a tribunal were if we had seen this information, the matter would have been resolved. A fine for not giving them a loaded gun, probably some shit about some of the accounting practices and that will be that. Everyone will know it’s a load of shit and on we go.

It’s the price of success. As city fans we have been absolutely spoiled on the pitch but because we won and took their revenue we had to be punished. Some will say it’s not worth it. This is real life greed and whether the other teams like it or not, city are here to stay as a team that competes for honours.

It’s a bloody expensive smack in the mouth.

 

[Keeper!]

Let's be honest they've already made a soup sandwich of everything that's happened recently.

They would but admitting they got it wrong before if even got to the hearing would be the last straw.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Asside from Goldridge admitting he's received legal correspondence from City.
A Utd fan who finds Goldbridge an amusing arse told me about the confession - but no way was I watching all the rest of his and other's shit to find it!

Point me to the bit where he admits receiving a letter mate I must be missing it?

 

[Silva Citizen]

Fair enough, i can see your reasoning. However, you look at the incident predominantly from a defenders point of view.
Every footballer has a right to challenge for a ball, but whether they can without contravening the laws of the game is the issue.
The defender was,caught out of position because his team was caught out of position. The defender has the legal challenge right to block the shot, but that's not what he did.
Due to his bad positioning and accurate play from City (which by the way is what goals are mostly built upon) he lunged into the attacker, missed the ball took out the player and that constitutes a penalty kick.
I would even go so far as to say it was an out of control challenge that endangered the opposing player.
Apart from the dangerous challenge the exact same scenario happens for the 2nd penalty, and everyone agrees that's a stonewall.
That's how I see it.

I understand the rules and take your point but a penalty given for a foul committed after the forward has completed his play cannot be right in logic. Perhaps in those situations an indirect free kick would be appropriate. Minus you VAR would probably cock that up too

 

[East Level 2]

100%, it would look even worse for the league if they withdrew the charges now, a PR disaster.

I'm not sure it would be a PR disaster.
The PL could simply say there were a lot of charges and they wanted to investigate fully before taking it to a hearing.
Losing in court would be a significantly worse in terms of PR.
It also wouldn't surprise me if City work with the PL to reduce the damage to the PL's reputation. We need the broadcast revenue as much as any other team. The reputation of individual PL officials is already shot to pieces.

 

[BlueAnorak]

100%, it would look even worse for the league if they withdrew the charges now, a PR disaster.

Now, that's a moot point.
A PR disaster now or an even worse one when City are cleared at an actual hearing.
Sometimes it's best to cut your losses.

 

[Keeper!]

I'm not sure it would be a PR disaster.
The PL could simply say there were a lot of charges and they wanted to investigate fully before taking it to a hearing.
Losing in court would be a significantly worse in terms of PR.
It also wouldn't surprise me if City work with the PL to reduce the damage to the PL's reputation. We need the broadcast revenue as much as any other team. The reputation of individual PL officials is already shot to pieces.

Disagree, they took years to bring these charges then just over 12 months later they admit they were wrong.

No doubt both parties will work together on a final resolution but it is looking like we will be the one dictating EVERY detail.

 

[Chi-town blues]

I got in too deep and too far to pull the handbrake on the off topic slide. Won't happen again.
Talking of handbrakes, my Nissan is jumping slightly when I engage the electronic handbrake. Anyone know anything about this?

You got to hit that electronic handbrake 115 times if it’s jumping. Nissan is a certified rag automobile. Lord pannick is the guy for this job.

 

[BlueAnorak]

No. Either the conduct was concealed deliberately in which case the limitation period is basically irrelevant, or it wasn’t concealed deliberately in which case (a) the claim is statute barred and (b) the claim fails on the merits in any event. There’s no middle ground where we get found guilty but not punished.

So your vigourously agreeing with me. :-D
If the attempt to show fraud (criminal law) is not proven than most of it is not proven.

 

[East Level 2]

Disagree, they took years to bring these charges then just over 12 months later they admit they were wrong.

No doubt both parties will work together on a final resolution but it is looking like we will be the one dictating EVERY detail.

The PL will look a bunch of prats whatever happens. We just disagree as to which outcome (losing in court or dropping charges) is the lesser of two evils from a reputation perspective.
I believe that if the charges are to be dropped it will happen just after the end of the season in the hope that the Euros will concentrate minds elsewhere.

 

[M12Blue]

Watching the media in general, I feel there is a clear reduction in talk about our “allegations”. Instead, perhaps, they focus on safer issues such as the goalie’s big “mistake” or Haaland’s “annoyance” at being subbed.
Is it coincidence? Am i imagining it???

Or Bein going on about lack of atmosphere at Etihad and CL final, wtf?

 

[BlueAnorak]

Point me to the bit where he admits receiving a letter mate I must be missing it?

2:02 to about 2:30. He claims he hasn't but his chat partner takes the piss and states the actuality of it.
Classic misdirection to get round the keep quiet clause that was probably included in the letter.

 

[Maly]

Couldn't have been circumcised. Rumour has it that he went for a circumcision and the surgeon said it was fucking impossible as there is no end to this prick.

I’ll give you a tip…..

 

[Metal Biker]

You got to hit that electronic handbrake 115 times if it’s jumping. Nissan is a certified rag automobile. Lord pannick is the guy for this job.

Don't Nissan sponsor City?