PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

kippaxwarrior said:
The reason York is mentioned so much is after that defeat the club were in their lowest position ever in the football league. 10th in league one(or 3rd division in old money).

Many fans including me at that time just couldn't see a way back. After the defeat at Wrexham on boxing day the players and staff had a team meeting and many players at that time have said that's where the dogs of war mantra started with Andy Morrison as the leader which saw the start of an upturn in results which led us back to The Premier League
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We beat Wrexham, that was the start of the run...
 
BlueRockape said:
Coffee F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 All day I must be fukin mad
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WRicko said:
Don’t think that really makes sense all religions have rules / laws

And missing my point
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Legalism is particular to those two religions though. So say for Islam it is things like the law of apostacy (many people stop believing in Islam but cannot say for fear of losing their family, be arrested, and status), marriage laws (a man can have up to 4 wives at time, a woman can only marry another Muslim etc..), dietry laws, in some cases who you can be friends with, and what you can wear, and so on. Its all part of a complex legal system governed by Sharia courts, which is harder to change than other systems of belief, particularly on the Arabian penisula. Other religions have moral rules but not entire complex legal systems. That's all my point is. It can be done to a degree, like Ataturk making Turkey secular, but it's hard. It's also why Imams hold so much sway.
There is definitely a concerted effort though. MBS in Saudi is now advocating less emphasis on the Hadith, where a lot of that law comes from, and more directly on the Quran.
 
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slbsn said:
On the contrary - do you really believe this unequivocal summary dealt with the CAS situation for most observers. Absolutely not. And, as you know, I also disagree with point 2 here re APT. It was necessarily nuanced because that was the finding of the tribunal.
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Fair enough, but I am talking about immediate impact of the judgment, not a more detailed analysis of the reasoning to prove a view one way or another.

Unless I am misremembering, the immediate impact of the CAS judgment was "City win". The immediate impact of the APT judgment was "Wtf does it mean?" which is why the interpretations varied from big City win to big PL win, through the entire range of slight City win, draw, slight PL win.

It seems to me, and I may be wrong of course, that this 115 judgment will be: these allegations were proved, these weren't. Unless the PL land the allegations they have allowed people to believe are the most serious, and that would allow the 60-100 point deduction about which they have allowed people to speculate, then they will clearly have "lost". And it will initially be reported as such. That was my point, really.

Maybe I am being naïeve again. It seems to happen a lot these days.
 
Chris in London said:
On the other hand, it’s no secret that in the interests of generating debate a presenter will often articulate a point of view with which they may not wholeheartedly agree. These issues, as I understand it, are the sorts of things more frequently discussed in production meetings than the subject of direct instruction via an earpiece.

Whilst it almost certainly overstates the case to say that a particular presenter‘s views are actually dictated for them by the producers - I think back to the infamous Sunday Supplement episode after Yaya signed, where I suspect none of the contributors on that day had the slightest need of editorial input - but equally to say that there is never any editorial input seem to overstate the case the other way.
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Chris in London said:
You soft shandy drinking shite.

Get some bread and lard down your neck.
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I would really like to read some of your closing arguments if you can cover the whole four-octave range of articulation from legalese to common as muck in the space of two posts.

They must be quite an art form .....
 
Do you think delay is because they want to announce the 115 and APT results together,get all the shit out in one go?
 
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