PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Nightmare Walking said:
In what way, fella? Why is it important? I am genuinely interested why you think it's so important (and other people, for that matter).
I can understand if people were getting laid off, because we were relegated. That has a real impact on a normal person's life.
But, as for having any impact on my life or the love of my club, this decision will make absolutely no difference.
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I genuinely think the club are currently at war and this case is likely the final/biggest battle. If we lose this then the red shirts have won.

It might not financially impact me or other blues it certainly will emotionally. I’m not here for the success or trophies and if the owners left tomorrow and we gradually got worse to the point we were relegated it wouldn’t bother me. If we got found guilty of cheating and titles were stripped/players were sold etc. It’d be a long road back for the club, at least in my opinion.

An FA Cup or top 4 finish this year is worth a lot less than the reputation of the last 10-15 years for me.
 
Just thinking there. If we get found not guilty of 129 charges, what are the chances that the headlines read
Manchester City found guilty of 115 charges case
Or something similar
 
The whole thing is a sham from start to finish IF we are found to have commited systemic fraud over a decade of competition and that our accounts which have been audited by one of the top auditing companies in the world AND accepted by the pl as being fair and honest for over a decade then it has to be assumed that the PL has been accepting any old rubbish by ALL clubs and consequently ALL clubs must be under the same suspicion and investigated accordingly, this is the flip side of the coin that is never mentioned, the whole narrative is that city must have cheated its never mentioned that if that is the case then the way the pl is governed must be called into question as it quite simply didnt spot it until some clubs were threatened? Yeah right. Also whats more likely that the brown owners who have invested massively both locally and globally have cheated, or the yank dipper owners who have got form for cheating in their other sports business enterprises, not to mention the hacking scandal or the yank rag owners who are 600 plus million of debt are squeaky clean, but we think city have cheated and the pl have spotted it after 15 years but nt spotted anything theyve done, give me break.
 
Nightmare Walking said:
In what way, fella? Why is it important? I am genuinely interested why you think it's so important (and other people, for that matter).
I can understand if people were getting laid off, because we were relegated. That has a real impact on a normal person's life.
But, as for having any impact on my life or the love of my club, this decision will make absolutely no difference.
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some perspective...

outside my home right now,
there are 2 sisters aged maybe 50,
the daughter of one of them and her little one.

none of them have a man who remains alive.
they have no home.
they are sitting on the fucking street.
i can, right now, hear the little one crying her heart out.

they sit there every evening at sunset during ramadan.
everyone, all us neighbours,
gives them enough food to see them through the night.


some mard-arses on here don't know they are born.
reckoning their wellbeing is dependent on the outcome.

okay,
when the news breaks it will be enormous,
but it isn't going to make innocent people homeless.
 
mancboy said:
The whole thing is a sham from start to finish IF we are found to have commited systemic fraud over a decade of competition and that our accounts which have been audited by one of the top auditing companies in the world AND accepted by the pl as being fair and honest for over a decade then it has to be assumed that the PL has been accepting any old rubbish by ALL clubs and consequently ALL clubs must be under the same suspicion and investigated accordingly, this is the flip side of the coin that is never mentioned, the whole narrative is that city must have cheated its never mentioned that if that is the case then the way the pl is governed must be called into question as it quite simply didnt spot it until some clubs were threatened? Yeah right. Also whats more likely that the brown owners who have invested massively both locally and globally have cheated, or the yank dipper owners who have got form for cheating in their other sports business enterprises, not to mention the hacking scandal or the yank rag owners who are 600 plus million of debt but we think city have cheated and the pl have spotted it after 15 years but nt spotted anything theyve done, give me break.
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Maybe it’s because other clubs sell themselves hotels
 
Benarbia’s Backheel said:
Makes a big difference to me. A lifetime of rags rubbing it in that we’ve won nothing, and then when we do win we just cheated our way to it. It would never stop me from loving City, but it would definitely have a big impact on how I view the football club under the current ownership.

Why does it not bother you? Genuinely interested!
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Was we caught with 12 players on the pitch or bribing the ref? That is cheating not some bean counting accusations.
 
Éireannach Gorm said:
Maybe it’s because other clubs sell themselves hotels
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Which they were entitled to do so, the pl left a loophole which chelsea utilised, what the pl are saying is that we fiddled the books because mancini had 2 contracts like that isnt entirely acceptable, if we wanted to hide mancinis true wage there is a million diff ways it could have been legally and easily hidden but we didnt
 
Damocles said:
Yes. Absolutely.

1 billion percentage yes.

If found guilty, the entire board will be disqualified as directors. They would correct assume that our trophies were illiegitmate because we cheated. Everything we've built for almost 20 years would be erased, and the Abu Dhabi based board would be complicit.

Again, I've said this before. I think we'll be found not guilty. but a guilty verdict isn't some nonsense and in business terms is the most serious accusation possible. There's no coming back from this. It's a criminal matter.
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My feelings if they'd uncovered something as serious as this it would be all over by now they wouldn't wait for ruling high authorities would've been informed and proceedings undertaken
 
Damocles said:
Same. I'm a lifer. I'm here in "Division Two" and the Champions League. I'm not interested, I just want to go to matches. If they relegate us to non-league or some shit then I can't wait to pay £10 a ticket. My support is not predicated on the corporate revenue of Manchester City.
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i can't imagine what some of our fans nowadays would be like if they had to traipse down to brighton in a ford fiesta (before the m25 was built) only to lose again, just like last year, by 4 goals.

being a city supporter has nothing to do with winning things.
 
Nightmare Walking said:
In what way, fella? Why is it important? I am genuinely interested why you think it's so important (and other people, for that matter).
I can understand if people were getting laid off, because we were relegated. That has a real impact on a normal person's life.
But, as for having any impact on my life or the love of my club, this decision will make absolutely no difference.
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Perhaps you are extremely thick skinned and if you really can feel like that, good for you.
The consequences of losing this (on the serious charges) would be monumental. My love of the club is a part if who I am as a person, and I would be absolutely shell shocked and gutted to the core. Of course life goes on and I'd support whatever identity of City that is left, but, my God, mentally I'd suffer.
Of course we can all think of other more important awful things, tragedies and loved ones, but it doesn't diminish what's at stake and the emotional impact.
 
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calumdown said:
i can't imagine what some of our fans nowadays would be like if they had to traipse down to brighton in a ford fiesta (before the m25 was built) only to lose again, just like last year, by 4 goals.

being a city supporter has nothing to do with winning things.
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One of my best aways this year was Arsenal away, music blasting out on the coach, Strongbow flowing, arguing with City fans walking out on 75 mins at 3 1 down, coach bouncing on the way home, a great day with friends, fuck the result, same again Sunday.
 
GaudinoMotors said:
Perhaps you are extremely thick skinned and if you really can feel like that, good for you.
The consequences of losing this (on the serious charges) would be monumental. My love of the club is a part if who I am as a person, and I would be absolutely shell shocked and gutted to the core. Of course life goes on and I'd support whatever identity of City that is left, but, my God, mentally I'd suffer.
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Me to m8, I've invested 42years now a season ticket holder and to be honest I don't want to even think of the worst case scenario
 
Damocles said:
Yes. Absolutely.

1 billion percentage yes.

If found guilty, the entire board will be disqualified as directors. They would correct assume that our trophies were illiegitmate because we cheated. Everything we've built for almost 20 years would be erased, and the Abu Dhabi based board would be complicit.

Again, I've said this before. I think we'll be found not guilty. but a guilty verdict isn't some nonsense and in business terms is the most serious accusation possible. There's no coming back from this. It's a criminal matter.
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IF that was the case then why havent HMRC and the police been involved at any stage of this whole process?
 
Benarbia’s Backheel said:
Makes a big difference to me. A lifetime of rags rubbing it in that we’ve won nothing, and then when we do win we just cheated our way to it. It would never stop me from loving City, but it would definitely have a big impact on how I view the football club under the current ownership.

Why does it not bother you? Genuinely interested!
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Over the last 5 weeks, I have known 2 lads lads from Newton Heath hang themselves. One in their 40's and another in his 30's. I have done a lot of thinking over the last few days and it's made me realise what's important to me.
I honestly don't care about the verdict. It's not going to diminish my love of City. I don't support City because of success. Owners will come and go.
Now I was not there for the Aguero moment. I had a load of my mates in my house, in Newton Heath. All rags, but one. My mate Beef was giving it me all game. When Aguero scored, I went absolutely mental. I totally lost control. I jumped on top of Beef and was laying right into him. I had to be dragged off him. It was fucking fantastic, I loved every second of it.
Now, my mate Beef died of bowel cancer not long after that, aged 35. All I have got is memories. They can take the trophies, they mean fuck all. But they are never taking my memories as that's all I have got. When I go back to Newton Heath, the story will be about when I went mad and started hitting Beef. That's what me and my mates will remember. Not financial experts and bullshit rules.
That's why I don't give a fuck. Win or lose this case, I will make more memories.
 
We were the cuddly Labrador to be stroked after 93.20 , then bacon won the next , all is good again apparently “those pesky noisy neighbours” have had their day in the sun.
Pellegrini rocked up and won the PL and LC in his first season( so fuck you Sloth).
And the rest is history , Pep REALLY stood things on its head.
And it’s that that has led to these charges - we were all cuddly and nice until he fucking ruined the rags , dippers , and the cockney trumped up wannabes.
No Pep , none of this would have seen the light of day , in a big way to try and force Pep to leave because he can’t handle “political pressure” like at Barca.
We will win , of that there is no doubt to me.
Chill your fucking beans people - Burton has caused mass hysteria, it’s actually pretty funny when you sit down and examine the last 50 pages.
 
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