Player thread: Edin Dzeko (2014/15)

[the-ecstacy-of-eight]

blah, blah, blah, stats, stats, stats, blah, blah, blah :)

Mate, the trouble with statistics, both in a sporting context as well as in most other contexts, is that the presentation of said numerical descriptors is key. You are able to manipulate the statistic to convey whichever commentary you wish to be heard, good or bad. Post overladen with numbers are transparent to most, and, in all likelihood, bore the shit out of the majority.

Just my opinion, of course. :)

 

[bitsmith]

blah, blah, blah, stats, stats, stats, blah, blah, blah :)

Mate, the trouble with statistics, both in a sporting context as well as in most other contexts, is that the presentation of said numerical descriptors is key. You are able to manipulate the statistic to convey whichever commentary you wish to be heard, good or bad. Post overladen with numbers are transparent to most, and, in all likelihood, bore the shit out of the majority.

Just my opinion, of course. :)

Stats surely often don't do the perfect job but if presentation or task they are dealing with is good enough they almost do exactly that.

Some of male porn actors out there are ugly as fuck. I am not George Clooney myself but compared to theirs, my face looks like it is Brad Pitt's. My penis size and not lasting too long though, won't ever make me rich from porn acting.

Striker's number of goals and intensity of scoring are their penis sizes and longevity so as long as those numbers are good enough and goalkeepers are being regularly penetrated nothing about the rest, aka their ugly faces, is enough important. And producers, aka football directors and managers, will always find their crotch area more important than their ugly faces ;)

So yeah, well targeted stats, and striker's goals are nothing short of best targeting for them, are almost perfect stuff to deal with someone's quality. Stats are just wonderful thing :)

 

[the-ecstacy-of-eight]

Stats surely often don't do the perfect job but if presentation or task they are dealing with is good enough they almost do exactly that.

Some of male porn actors out there are ugly as fuck. I am not George Clooney myself but compared to theirs, my face looks like it is Brad Pitt's. My penis size and not lasting too long though, won't ever make me rich from porn acting.

Striker's number of goals and intensity of scoring are their penis sizes and longevity so as long as those numbers are good enough and goalkeepers are being regularly penetrated nothing about the rest, aka their ugly faces, is enough important. And producers, aka football directors and managers, will always find their crotch area more important than their ugly faces ;)

ANALOGY BIZARRO!

 

[pudge]

Ignorance is bliss

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[bitsmith]

Stats surely often don't do the perfect job but if presentation or task they are dealing with is good enough they almost do exactly that.

Some of male porn actors out there are ugly as fuck. I am not George Clooney myself but compared to theirs, my face looks like it is Brad Pitt's. My penis size and not lasting too long though, won't ever make me rich from porn acting.

Striker's number of goals and intensity of scoring are their penis sizes and longevity so as long as those numbers are good enough and goalkeepers are being regularly penetrated nothing about the rest, aka their ugly faces, is enough important. And producers, aka football directors and managers, will always find their crotch area more important than their ugly faces ;)

ANALOGY BIZARRO!

I tried hard :D

 

[kalouk]

I think we need to focus on the middle ground of this argument. Some seem to under rate him others over but if we meet in the middle it seems silly to sell him. Aguero will always play, we have just spent big on Bony so I assume he will play a lot to. If we sell Dzeko, who has proved he can come up with the goods when needed, for the amounts being floated around who do we replace him with? No one at the top of their game is going to come to be third striker and even if they did how much would they cost not many strikers seem to sell cheaply. Another point for me is that, this season being the exception Dzeko has rarely been injured. Aguero does tend to suffer injuries so if he is out for any length of time, we have relied on Dzeko. Balotelli, Negredo who were going to be the ruin of Edin according to some have come and gone. He will never be what some want him to be but he is third striker, with a good goal scoring record, always available and seems to accept his lot at the moment. What's not to like? I fear we will spend a lot of money trying to replace him in the long run. I would rather keep him and spend the money on a different part of the team. If we keep him for a couple more seasons maybe we can save a lot of money by Iheanacho or one of our younger players being ready to step up.

 

[the-ecstacy-of-eight]

So yeah, well targeted stats, and striker's goals are nothing short of best targeting for them, are almost perfect stuff to deal with someone's quality. Stats are just wonderful thing :)

Yes, statistics ARE wonderful, but in the wrong hands they can also be as far away from wonderful as is imaginable.

I won't go too far with this explanation, but I'll try to explain...

Scenario 1 - Ten minutes near the end of a comfortable three - nil home victory
Scenario 2 - Ten minutes near the end of a tight two - nil away defeat

Are these ten minute periods equatable?

Are "minutes per goal" statistics valid?

 

[kaz7]

I think we need to focus on the middle ground of this argument. Some seem to under rate him others over but if we meet in the middle it seems silly to sell him. Aguero will always play, we have just spent big on Bony so I assume he will play a lot to. If we sell Dzeko, who has proved he can come up with the goods when needed, for the amounts being floated around who do we replace him with? No one at the top of their game is going to come to be third striker and even if they did how much would they cost not many strikers seem to sell cheaply. Another point for me is that, this season being the exception Dzeko has rarely been injured. Aguero does tend to suffer injuries so if he is out for any length of time, we have relied on Dzeko. Balotelli, Negredo who were going to be the ruin of Edin according to some have come and gone. He will never be what some want him to be but he is third striker, with a good goal scoring record, always available and seems to accept his lot at the moment. What's not to like? I fear we will spend a lot of money trying to replace him in the long run. I would rather keep him and spend the money on a different part of the team. If we keep him for a couple more seasons maybe we can save a lot of money by Iheanacho or one of our younger players being ready to step up.

Finally,some common sense :)

 

[bitsmith]

Damocles, when you find me a better stuff than stats to rate someone's job, and better stuff than goal stats to rate striker's job, than we could maybe discuss about some theoretical stuff about stats. Maybe, as it's bit boring to be honest and I'm not too interested.

But since you can't as hard as you try, than bow and accept, it's goals that make strikers..... "and nothing else matters...."

 

[bitsmith]

So yeah, well targeted stats, and striker's goals are nothing short of best targeting for them, are almost perfect stuff to deal with someone's quality. Stats are just wonderful thing :)

Yes, statistics ARE wonderful, but in the wrong hands they can also be as far away from wonderful as is imaginable.

I won't go too far with this explanation, but I'll try to explain...

Scenario 1 - Ten minutes near the end of a comfortable three - nil home victory
Scenario 2 - Ten minutes near the end of a tight two - nil away defeat

Are these ten minute periods equatable?

Are "minutes per goal" statistics valid?

Your only problem here is they are not in wrong hands :)

I'm not talking about how many movies had Dzeko watched since he came to Manchester but how many goals he scored, and that is slighty, slightly connected with job he is making living from :)

Scenarios don't matter at all, if he does his part of the job and scores goals he is only slightly but this time really slightly responsible for other stuff. His main job is to score goals, plain and simple.