Player thread: Matija Nastasic (2014/15)

[RandomJ]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Some of you are vastly underrating him. "Gives away silly fouls" what about Mangala brainlessly taking players out or even Demi who isn't exactly innocent from committing stupid fouls. Nasty is great on the ball, he is a very intelligent defender always reading the danger and is in position before the ball arrives. He isn't the fastest but is certainly faster than Demi and kept up with Ronaldo alright when we played Madrid so thats an unfair criticism aimed at him. I think this is all personal. Something has happened in the background between him and Pellegrini and Pellegrini has basically cut him off from the team.

Personally it leaves a bit of a nasty taste in my mouth the way he has been treated especially after how well he played for us in his first season. He hasn't even been given the chance to prove himself or even given the chance to come off the bench when needed.

 

[razman]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

I very much doubt that Pellegrini thinks Boyata is better than Nastasic, in any system.

We want Nastasic to leave and, apparently, he hasnt co-operated. So he doesn't get picked.

This seems most likely the case...i really doubt that for footballing reasons boyata would be picked over nastasic

 

[Rodney]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

I very much doubt that Pellegrini thinks Boyata is better than Nastasic, in any system.

We want Nastasic to leave and, apparently, he hasnt co-operated. So he doesn't get picked.

This seems most likely the case...i really doubt that for footballing reasons boyata would be picked over nastasic

Or my mother in law.

 

[TheRubberRing]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Nastasic has a coke issue end of nothing to do with his footballing ability

 

[OB1]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Some of you are vastly underrating him. "Gives away silly fouls" what about Mangala brainlessly taking players out or even Demi who isn't exactly innocent from committing stupid fouls. Nasty is great on the ball, he is a very intelligent defender always reading the danger and is in position before the ball arrives. He isn't the fastest but is certainly faster than Demi and kept up with Ronaldo alright when we played Madrid so thats an unfair criticism aimed at him. I think this is all personal. Something has happened in the background between him and Pellegrini and Pellegrini has basically cut him off from the team.

Personally it leaves a bit of a nasty taste in my mouth the way he has been treated especially after how well he played for us in his first season. He hasn't even been given the chance to prove himself or even given the chance to come off the bench when needed.

Leaves a nasty taste in your mouth but do you actually have know if and what has gone down between him and Pellegrini?

 

[Rodney]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Nastasic has a coke issue end of nothing to do with his footballing ability

Wow! Who told you about this?

 

[ninjamonkey]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

I think it's true that he doesn't suit our system but he's young clearly very talented and could easily adapt in time. There's something obviously gone on behind the scenes for him to be totally cast aside as he has been. Boyata is simply nowhere near Nasty's standard and for him to not even be mentioned in conversation by Pellers show's he'll never play for us again under Pellegrini at least. I've no doubt he'll go elsewhere and prove to be a top top quality defender i just hope he stays away from England so it's not rubbed in our faces too much.

 

[Blue Note]

Nastasic - just what is the problem?

He is a great player and still yet to hit his peak. May have had a few bad games (can't recall many), but so what all players do. Maybe something going on behind the scenes as can't be to hard for him to adapt to a new system.

 

[Deleted member 58678]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Nastasic has a coke issue end of nothing to do with his footballing ability

Total speculation and rumour.

 

[AlthamBlue]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Nastasic has a coke issue end of nothing to do with his footballing ability

Sure he does, manages to play for his national team though.

 

[jimharri]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Nastasic has a coke issue end of nothing to do with his footballing ability

Have you got proof of this? That's a very serious allegation to be spreading about.

 

[michael1991]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Nastasic has a coke issue end of nothing to do with his footballing ability

Sure he does, manages to play for his national team though.

Don't think its drugs thinks it's to do with he didn't want to leave in the summer when we wanted rid so think he's being punished for not leaving?

 

[MichaelBBack]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

I'm glad someone made this thread because I ask myself the same question time and again. I mean there's obviously something gone/going on behind the scenes but Pellers clearly doesn't have a liking for the lad. Personally... I can't imagine why. Right from his debut (a game against Real Madrid where he excelled, thank you very much) I think he has been absolutely brilliant, easily the best signing of the summer he came in (not that there was much competition), and a very well deserved Young Player of the Season winner. I really, really like Nastasic and it pains me that he isn't being given the time he deserves.

Demi is brilliant, Kompany is one of the best in the world, and Mangala cost 32m so of course they get the nod ahead of him, but never in a million years should Boyata be chosen ahead of Matija. He's conducted himself in respectable fashion too, a lot of players would've come out with some comments to the press by now about issues with the manager or what have you, he's kept himself to himself, and maybe that's the real cause of his troubles in the end. I don't want us to lose such a good player but I know Pellers isn't interested so I hope he finds another club and proves what a top class talent he is.

 

[ancoats]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Nastasic has a coke issue end of nothing to do with his footballing ability

Sure he does, manages to play for his national team though.

its only 6 cans a day

 

[AlthamBlue]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Nastasic has a coke issue end of nothing to do with his footballing ability

Sure he does, manages to play for his national team though.

Don't think its drugs thinks it's to do with he didn't want to leave in the summer when we wanted rid so think he's being punished for not leaving?

if that's the reason, this leads me to thinking that on this occasion Pellegrini is a dick. Punishing a player for wanting to fight for his place is ridiculous.

 

[NipHolmes]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Word is Guidetti, Sinclair and Nastasic were all told they wouldn't feature in Pellegrini's plans and their agents were instructed to find moves for the players.

Guidetti went to a club that had just lost Samaras and have a place for him, it's worked out do fair play.

Sinclair received no offered on parity or close to the 45k pw he is on here. City after permanent moves rather than loans but.I can see us loaning
him out in Jan.

Nastasic, bidders in Italy were leaving until the close of the window before posting paltry offers and the packages meant Nastasic chose to stay.

City and Pellegrini himself take a thought stance on this. Move on or rot, if a player chooses finance of career prosperity then that's upto them. But at least Nastasic hasn't been bitching like Sinclair. Nastasic will move on in Jan and I hope to Inter and we get a preference on Handanovic who imo is a far, far superior keeper to Hart.

The above is what I was pm'd a while back when I asked. Makes sense so never questioned it, one thing I sincerely believe is nonsense is the drug taking accusations. Out of order to make such spurious accusations. I know of a player personally that used to play for Wolves and got caught, nothing was leaked to the press and player kept to himself, yet the player was sacked. Then the news was leaked via backroom staff apparently, any big news like this is leaked. Wilshere agent threatened journalists according to arsenal itk I spoke to a few years back. Just like Cole did when he was caught in Harley St getting a mobile removed out of his arse by a Doc. Nothing that interests the public remains private for long.

 

[NipHolmes]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Sure he does, manages to play for his national team though.

Don't think its drugs thinks it's to do with he didn't want to leave in the summer when we wanted rid so think he's being punished for not leaving?

if that's the reason, this leads me to thinking that on this occasion Pellegrini is a dick. Punishing a player for wanting to fight for his place is ridiculous.

What if a player is told they 100% do not feature in managers plans and agent is instructed by Txiki to find a move. Club needs funds freeing up and player stays, scuppering any hopes of bringing in a fresh face or two. That player only has themself to blame, it really is that simple. If the club caves in, what's to stop others from calling bluffs from the club.

 

[AlthamBlue]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Don't think its drugs thinks it's to do with he didn't want to leave in the summer when we wanted rid so think he's being punished for not leaving?

if that's the reason, this leads me to thinking that on this occasion Pellegrini is a dick. Punishing a player for wanting to fight for his place is ridiculous.

What if a player is told they 100% do not feature in managers plans and agent is instructed by Txiki to find a move. Club needs funds freeing up and player stays, scuppering any hopes of bringing in a fresh face or two. That player only has themself to blame, it really is that simple. If the club caves in, what's to stop others from calling bluffs from the club.

Then that player does what he feels is best for his career. If nothing suitable comes up then he has every right to stay, he is afterall under contract with us. That doesn't mean treating him like an outcast makes Pellegrini right.

 

[i8rags]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

I've heard he's on reduced wages whilst not playing. Also is very fragile and will not be risked whilst available for transfer.

 

[dobobobo]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

I take no pleasure in using this pic, but can't ignore the truth: