Player thread: Matija Nastasic (2014/15)

[Ric]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Noticed his best friends haven't featured much also this season Kolarov and Dzeko something ain't right..

Been injured ??

Please stop with your common sense it doesn't go down well with the plebs...

He's had few niggles this season, but I think putting his slip down the pecking order purely down to injury is oversimplifying things. Something has clearly gone on behind the scenes. It may be down to his attitude, or relationship with Pellegrini - no one really knows.

The fact that he is behind Boyata in the pecking order is telling though. With Rekik and possibly Denayer due to return next season, I think it's inevitable he'll be sold. Probably in January, if a buyer can be found. It's a shame, as he showed great promise in that first season under Mancini, but I suspect there's more to it than that.

 

[cleavers]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Been injured ??

Please stop with your common sense it doesn't go down well with the plebs...

He's had few niggles this season, but I think putting his slip down the pecking order purely down to injury is oversimplifying things. Something has clearly gone on behind the scenes. It may be down to his attitude, or relationship with Pellegrini - no one really knows.

The fact that he is behind Boyata in the pecking order is telling though. With Rekik and possibly Denayer due to return next season, I think it's inevitable he'll be sold. Probably in January, if a buyer can be found. It's a shame, as he showed great promise in that first season under Mancini, but I suspect there's more to it than that.

I was referring to the comments about Kolorov and Dzeko not featuring much Ric.

Nastasic has been frozen out, that much is obvious.

 

[Ric]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Please stop with your common sense it doesn't go down well with the plebs...

He's had few niggles this season, but I think putting his slip down the pecking order purely down to injury is oversimplifying things. Something has clearly gone on behind the scenes. It may be down to his attitude, or relationship with Pellegrini - no one really knows.

The fact that he is behind Boyata in the pecking order is telling though. With Rekik and possibly Denayer due to return next season, I think it's inevitable he'll be sold. Probably in January, if a buyer can be found. It's a shame, as he showed great promise in that first season under Mancini, but I suspect there's more to it than that.

I was referring to the comments about Kolorov and Dzeko not featuring much Ric.

Nastasic has been frozen out, that much is obvious.

Doh, sorry! I misread it, my mistake.

 

[Sunny Coast Blue]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Don't forget Jovetic is his besty also, seems a cut off our nose to spite ya face scenario, why don't we trade him in for Vidal or the ex Rag, he should of been cleansed by now! All a load of Balkans if you ask me.

 

[Ric]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Don't forget Jovetic is his besty also, seems a cut off our nose to spite ya face scenario, why don't we trade him in for Vidal or the ex Rag, he should of been cleansed by now! All a load of Balkans if you ask me.

I'm sure Juve will be snapping our hands off at the prospect of swapping Nastasic for Vidal or Pogba!

 

[aguero93:20]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

I heard he's a smack addict and used to pal around with Jimmy Saville. Allegedly

 

[FantasyIreland]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

The fact that he is behind Boyata in the pecking order is telling though.

All it tells me is that he rates Boyata higher,which isn't anywhere near as strange as some make out as,while Nastasic may be technically superior,i don't believe he's is on a par with Dedryk in either the athleticism or attitude stakes.

Nastasic is no loss to us,his fee will come in very handy though.

 

[K-Bo]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Don't really accept any footballing excuse for him being completely frozen out to the point where he hasn't made our bench in 5 months. showed enough in his first year to be given the benefit of the doubt for a period of poor form, especially considering his age. Demichelis, Hart, Mangala. Dzeko, Clichy to a name a few players who went through an extended period of poor form with Pellegrini sticking by them. Its not that. To me it can only be something personal between manager and player. Maybe he doesnt like his attitude, or maybe he's done something we all don't know about. And City are opting to just get rid off him quietly as opposed to getting another media storm for it. And if Pellegrini doesn't rate him at all, it makes sense for the club to cash in as opposed to holding on to a player that will never be used.

Either way it annoys me, because I feel maybe barring Lopes the guy was the best young player we had at the club, and one who was getting experience of top level football at an early age. Its a real shame its gone down this way.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Looks like Nasty could be heading to Germany. Shalke want him!
<a class="postlink" href="https://twitter.com/samueljayc/status/550243458737516544" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://twitter.com/samueljayc/status/5 ... 8737516544</a>

 

[City1974]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Looks like Nasty could be heading to Germany. Shalke want him!
<a class="postlink" href="https://twitter.com/samueljayc/status/550243458737516544" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://twitter.com/samueljayc/status/5 ... 8737516544</a>

No more loans though. If they want him they should buy him (£ 10 million we should ask for as we paid £ 12 million for him). We don not want a see what he is like until the summer and then perhaps decide against buying situation.

Lets not be an soft touch anymore.

Also how did Chelsea get £ 18 million for De Bruyne, a player who hardly ever played for them and yet Nastasic who has played at least a full season for us can go for only £ 5 - 10 million ?

 

[Rolee]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Looks like Nasty could be heading to Germany. Shalke want him!
<a class="postlink" href="https://twitter.com/samueljayc/status/550243458737516544" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://twitter.com/samueljayc/status/5 ... 8737516544</a>

No more loans though. If they want him they should buy him (£ 10 million we should ask for as we paid £ 12 million for him). We don not want a see what he is like until the summer and then perhaps decide against buying situation.

Lets not be an soft touch anymore.

Also how did Chelsea get £ 18 million for De Bruyne, a player who hardly ever played for them and yet Nastasic who has played at least a full season for us can go for only £ 5 - 10 million ?

Incredible isn't it? If I was the suspicious type I'd suspect there was something dodgy going on with regards Chelsea's sales.

 

[m7mcfc]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

I saw him walking through town last week with red high top trainers tucked into his jeans and a red track top, my thoughts were Prick.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Don't really accept any footballing excuse for him being completely frozen out to the point where he hasn't made our bench in 5 months. showed enough in his first year to be given the benefit of the doubt for a period of poor form, especially considering his age. Demichelis, Hart, Mangala. Dzeko, Clichy to a name a few players who went through an extended period of poor form with Pellegrini sticking by them. Its not that. To me it can only be something personal between manager and player. Maybe he doesnt like his attitude, or maybe he's done something we all don't know about. And City are opting to just get rid off him quietly as opposed to getting another media storm for it. And if Pellegrini doesn't rate him at all, it makes sense for the club to cash in as opposed to holding on to a player that will never be used.

Either way it annoys me, because I feel maybe barring Lopes the guy was the best young player we had at the club, and one who was getting experience of top level football at an early age. Its a real shame its gone down this way.

It all comes down to restrictions on squad lists in the CL. We / the club new in the summer there would be players who would have to be omitted from the list and therefore they might as well go and find a new club.

Sinclair and Nastasic did not make the list and therefore were asked to find a new club. Boyata is club trained so a freebe on the list. We are better of giving any opportunity to Boyata in case we need him for CL duty as the 4th CB!

If a player is asked to leave and they fail to find a new club then they have to accept being side-lined it is the harsh reality of top flight football and made more stark by the tightening of squad restrictions.

 

[Rolee]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Don't really accept any footballing excuse for him being completely frozen out to the point where he hasn't made our bench in 5 months. showed enough in his first year to be given the benefit of the doubt for a period of poor form, especially considering his age. Demichelis, Hart, Mangala. Dzeko, Clichy to a name a few players who went through an extended period of poor form with Pellegrini sticking by them. Its not that. To me it can only be something personal between manager and player. Maybe he doesnt like his attitude, or maybe he's done something we all don't know about. And City are opting to just get rid off him quietly as opposed to getting another media storm for it. And if Pellegrini doesn't rate him at all, it makes sense for the club to cash in as opposed to holding on to a player that will never be used.

Either way it annoys me, because I feel maybe barring Lopes the guy was the best young player we had at the club, and one who was getting experience of top level football at an early age. Its a real shame its gone down this way.

It all comes down to restrictions on squad lists in the CL. We / the club new in the summer there would be players who would have to be omitted from the list and therefore they might as well go and find a new club.

Sinclair and Nastasic did not make the list and therefore were asked to find a new club. Boyata is club trained so a freebe on the list. We are better of giving any opportunity to Boyata in case we need him for CL duty as the 4th CB!

If a player is asked to leave and they fail to find a new club then they have to accept being side-lined it is the harsh reality of top flight football and made more stark by the tightening of squad restrictions.

Nastasic didn't have to be named on the list this year mate. He's regarded as under21 under the rules.

I think it's simply a case of Pellegrini not feeling he can rely on him. There was a moment in a press conference last season where you could see that Pellegrini had lost patience with him, I remember thinking after watching it that Nasty's days are numbered at the club.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Looks like Nasty could be heading to Germany. Shalke want him!
<a class="postlink" href="https://twitter.com/samueljayc/status/550243458737516544" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://twitter.com/samueljayc/status/5 ... 8737516544</a>

No more loans though. If they want him they should buy him (£ 10 million we should ask for as we paid £ 12 million for him). We don not want a see what he is like until the summer and then perhaps decide against buying situation.

Lets not be an soft touch anymore.

Also how did Chelsea get £ 18 million for De Bruyne, a player who hardly ever played for them and yet Nastasic who has played at least a full season for us can go for only £ 5 - 10 million ?

Incredible isn't it? If I was the suspicious type I'd suspect there was something dodgy going on with regards Chelsea's sales.

Yeah but Pellers has shown that he rates Boyata more highly than Nasty so I think we would do well to get much more than £5 million for him now.

A difference with De Bruyne is that he had shown he was a very good player whilst on loan in the German league. That said I agree that we want a cash deal for Nasty who looked like he would be come a world beater 18 months ago!

 

[Neville Kneville]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Every time Nastsic has started to look even half decent as a defender, as if the penny is dropping, he has done something to let himself, & us, down & it's back to square one.

If that mistake is made with Nastasic trying his hardest, & getting it wrong, then the manager is more likely to forgive him, at least while he's young. When it's a mistake made just because the player doesn't fight for the ball though, it's unlikely he is going to make it. Add that to the fact he's not fast, or dominant in the air, what exactly are you buying when you sign him ?

If someone can toughen him up, he might be ok, but it was clear from day one that he wasn't the player some on here were making him out to be.

Anyway, good luck to him in his career. I hope he learns.

 

[mastermind]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Looks like Nasty could be heading to Germany. Shalke want him!
<a class="postlink" href="https://twitter.com/samueljayc/status/550243458737516544" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">https://twitter.com/samueljayc/status/5 ... 8737516544</a>

No more loans though. If they want him they should buy him (£ 10 million we should ask for as we paid £ 12 million for him). We don not want a see what he is like until the summer and then perhaps decide against buying situation.

Lets not be an soft touch anymore.

Also how did Chelsea get £ 18 million for De Bruyne, a player who hardly ever played for them and yet Nastasic who has played at least a full season for us can go for only £ 5 - 10 million ?

Incredible isn't it? If I was the suspicious type I'd suspect there was something dodgy going on with regards Chelsea's sales.

they also sold lukaku for like 40 million euros .. definately something dodgy going on there.

 

[Davs 19]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

Every time Nastsic has started to look even half decent as a defender, as if the penny is dropping, he has done something to let himself, & us, down & it's back to square one.

If that mistake is made with Nastasic trying his hardest, & getting it wrong, then the manager is more likely to forgive him, at least while he's young. When it's a mistake made just because the player doesn't fight for the ball though, it's unlikely he is going to make it. Add that to the fact he's not fast, or dominant in the air, what exactly are you buying when you sign him ?

If someone can toughen him up, he might be ok, but it was clear from day one that he wasn't the player some on here were making him out to be.

Anyway, good luck to him in his career. I hope he learns.

While I don't agree with all of that Nev, you could easily have been describing Jerome Boateng.

 

[yatesy94]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

If pig boy Jones can be a starter for the rags then surely Matija could've been a very capable squad player for us...sad to see him leave.

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

Re: Nastasic - just what is the problem?

the last time a young player was mysteriously injured all the time , was michael johnson ,anyone know if he has been hitting the night clubs and kebab shops recently ?