Players who might improve us

Weigl reminds me so much of Xavi. Just effortless football. Loved him the first time I saw him.
 
mavsmcfc said:
Yeah cause he had Matic covering for him. Look what happened last season.
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I never said he would be solely responsible for defensive duties, He may have Gundogan covering for him or Fernandinho at City. but you cant argue that the partnership he struck up with the forward players at Chelsea (Costa, Hazard, Willian) that season, didnt help them win the league.

This is the thread for players who would improve us. The one thing we struggled with last year was getting the ball forward quickly enough and early enough to be dangerous with it, therefore he would improve us in that regard.
 
Pablo1 said:
A left back who's played football at any level, including school team.
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I would have thought we would be linked to Lucas Digne. He's a decent young left back and was on loan from PSG to Roma last year. Roma and PSG have not yet agreed terms to make it permanent so he is as available as it gets.
 
TrueBlueMike said:
I never said he would be solely responsible for defensive duties, He may have Gundogan covering for him or Fernandinho at City. but you cant argue that the partnership he struck up with the forward players at Chelsea (Costa, Hazard, Willian) that season, didnt help them win the league.

This is the thread for players who would improve us. The one thing we struggled with last year was getting the ball forward quickly enough and early enough to be dangerous with it, therefore he would improve us in that regard.
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Gundogan is not nearly the defender that Matic is. We all saw for ourselves last season what happened when Yaya plays in a midfield 2 and how much he was a liabilitiy defensively. I'd rather have Kroos/Rakitic/Pjanic/Thiago than Fabregas. If we play Fabregas, we have to have another defensive-minded CM alongside him and that would limit our lineup flexibility.
 
mavsmcfc said:
Gundogan is not nearly the defender that Matic is. We all saw for ourselves last season what happened when Yaya plays in a midfield 2 and how much he was a liabilitiy defensively. I'd rather have Kroos/Rakitic/Pjanic/Thiago than Fabregas. If we play Fabregas, we have to have another defensive-minded CM alongside him and that would limit our lineup flexibility.
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And I havnt claimed Gundogan is better defensivly than Matic. What I have said, is he could do a job on the cover, as could Dinho. If you play the 3 of them, tell one to sit while 2 go or whatever. Its Horses for Courses mate, and it depends who we are up against.

The point still stands Fabregas could improve us
 
I've seen no suggestion he wants to come but I would have thought Gerard Pique would be an ideal replacement for MD. At 29 he's not past it. He's experienced, a fair organiser & leader at the back, he scores a few, and Pep would trust him in charge of the defence in VK's absence.

(Yes, yes, I know but...)
 
domalino said:
When was the last time Pep played a winger at full back?
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Alves played on the wing for Sevilla and Barca, Guardiola played him exclusively at full back, same with Adriano. He hasn't exactly had your typical full backs at Bayern either. If he wants someone with a huge workrate and plenty of tenacity, someone great at holding possession and getting his team up the pitch and someone who has the ability to come infield and support the lads in central midfield when necessary, I don't see why he'd look past Navas.
 
aguero93:20 said:
Alves played on the wing for Sevilla and Barca, Guardiola played him exclusively at full back, same with Adriano. He hasn't exactly had your typical full backs at Bayern either. If he wants someone with a huge workrate and plenty of tenacity, someone great at holding possession and getting his team up the pitch and someone who has the ability to come infield and support the lads in central midfield when necessary, I don't see why he'd look past Navas.
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Good post.
 
aguero93:20 said:
Alves played on the wing for Sevilla and Barca, Guardiola played him exclusively at full back, same with Adriano. He hasn't exactly had your typical full backs at Bayern either. If he wants someone with a huge workrate and plenty of tenacity, someone great at holding possession and getting his team up the pitch and someone who has the ability to come infield and support the lads in central midfield when necessary, I don't see why he'd look past Navas.
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Alves never played on the wing for Barcelona. He never played for Barcelona before Guardiola anyway, he was bought in Pep's first summer.

And There's a massive difference between your right back being a fullback occasionally drafted in to play wing, and using a winger exclusively at fullback.

Dani Alves was an attacking right back, he'd played there his entire life apart from filling in on the wing.

Jesus Navas is a 30 year old winger who has played on the wing his entire life and never at fullback. It's chalk and cheese.

His fullbacks at Bayern have all been your typical fullbacks. Lahm, Rafinha, Alaba and Bernat were all established fullbacks. Lahm and Alaba were able to play elsewhere, but they were fullbacks first and foremost.
 
domalino said:
Alves never played on the wing for Barcelona. He never played for Barcelona before Guardiola anyway, he was bought in Pep's first summer.

And There's a massive difference between your right back being a fullback occasionally drafted in to play wing, and using a winger exclusively at fullback.

Dani Alves was an attacking right back, he'd played there his entire life apart from filling in on the wing.

Jesus Navas is a 30 year old winger who has played on the wing his entire life and never at fullback. It's chalk and cheese.

His fullbacks at Bayern have all been your typical fullbacks. Lahm, Rafinha, Alaba and Bernat were all established fullbacks. Lahm and Alaba were able to play elsewhere, but they were fullbacks first and foremost.
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Alaba is hardly a typical full back, he was moved there from attacking midfield. Alves played on the wing as much as at full back for Sevilla (trust me, I was living there and going to games at the time) Bernat played on the wing as a youngster. When Guardiola came into the Barcelona job he changed the role of a full back completely. The likes of Danilo, Marcelo, Kolarov etc were wingers in 2007 and after. He's typically used somebody with the skill sets of a technical winger at full back. Somebody who can keep the ball, come inside and link play, get forward and provide width when his wider forward players move infield and help apply pressure defensively without the ball. Navas has the perfect skillset.
 
Would make superb backup for gundogan, and would possibly make a compelling case for starting ahead of fernandinho.

Great young CM for a very decent price.
 
It seems Madrd is clearing out its backup AMs but for Isco. Fuks! Anyway, I've always liked the way thid this kid drive forward with the ball.. Kinda like DeBryune with superior dribbling. Very frustrating for defenses.
 
I have to think if we really wanted him we would get him. This is my own comforting thoughts with all the transfer gossip. Putting all our trust in Pep and his decisions.

Whenever a player is tied to a team OTHER THAN Madrid, Barca, PSG, Munich or the rags... we can outbid them all. If a team like Juventus is going to get Kovacic, I have to believe its because Pep doesn't want him or has alternatives.
 
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