Players who might improve us

marc_mcfc90 said:
This weekend is a perfect example of why we need a big man up top like cavani
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I don't know if a "big" player is required, but someone who puts away his chances, who is clinical down t the bone, and works hard in defense (pressing). Cavani is old I know, and would probably cost a lot of money combined, but still... someone like him I feel we would really benefit from having in our squad.
 
Matt the Giant said:
I don't know if a "big" player is required, but someone who puts away his chances, who is clinical down t the bone, and works hard in defense (pressing). Cavani is old I know, and would probably cost a lot of money combined, but still... someone like him I feel we would really benefit from having in our squad.
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But Cavani doesn't put his chances away, and he is net clinical to the bone.
 
Dax777 said:
But Cavani doesn't put his chances away, and he is net clinical to the bone.
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Is he not?
Well, I base my opinion mostly on what I saw from him when he played for Napoli. Is he no longer the same player? I see he has scored 40 goals in 47 games this season, 49 in 50 last season.
 
Matt the Giant said:
Is he not?
Well, I base my opinion mostly on what I saw from him when he played for Napoli. Is he no longer the same player? I see he has scored 40 goals in 47 games this season, 49 in 50 last season.
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Yes, he scores a lot of goals. But he is not clinical. Aguero scores a lot too, and in spite of all our complaints, he is more clinical than Cavani. If you watch PSG he misses lots of esse chances. Sure he scores some spectacular ones too, and scored a lot. But I won't call him clinical.
 
Dax777 said:
Yes, he scores a lot of goals. But he is not clinical. Aguero scores a lot too, and in spite of all our complaints, he is more clinical than Cavani. If you watch PSG he misses lots of esse chances. Sure he scores some spectacular ones too, and scored a lot. But I won't call him clinical.
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Ok, cheers.
Anyway, he is probably a bit too old and would cost too much.
 
What do you think would happen if we presented Liverpool with an offer in the £150m-£200m range for Salah?

Given our ambition, stated a number of times by those running the club, why do you think we wouldn't do this? I assume we could actually find the money if we wanted to? But I also guess that may limit other purchases on positions like a Fern replacement. However, if we got Salah would that even matter? And what a statement of intent it would be to the rest of the league!
 
The Riot Club said:
What do you think would happen if we presented Liverpool with an offer in the £150m-£200m range for Salah?

Given our ambition, stated a number of times by those running the club, why do you think we wouldn't do this? I assume we could actually find the money if we wanted to? But I also guess that may limit other purchases on positions like a Fern replacement. However, if we got Salah would that even matter? And what a statement of intent it would be to the rest of the league!
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It would be boring. I'm not sure Salah will be that good either
 
The Riot Club said:
What do you think would happen if we presented Liverpool with an offer in the £150m-£200m range for Salah?

Given our ambition, stated a number of times by those running the club, why do you think we wouldn't do this? I assume we could actually find the money if we wanted to? But I also guess that may limit other purchases on positions like a Fern replacement. However, if we got Salah would that even matter? And what a statement of intent it would be to the rest of the league!
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I imagine they'd tell us to shove it, besides its not a guarantee he can replicate this seasons form again. I don't know whether he will or not but for that kind of money you'd have to be certain and there's no guarantee even if he was just as good that he would be as effective in our system - he scores a lot of vardy-esque ball over the top goals that he would have less opportunity for here.
 
tammy Abrahams , we do not have anything like him but would Chelsea deal with us? all depends on how highly they rate him and who is there next season, as for improving us he would add balance to our strikers so when Aguerro goes we can buy a midget like Dybala in confidence
 
Dax777 said:
Yes, he scores a lot of goals. But he is not clinical. Aguero scores a lot too, and in spite of all our complaints, he is more clinical than Cavani. If you watch PSG he misses lots of esse chances. Sure he scores some spectacular ones too, and scored a lot. But I won't call him clinical.
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Granted it's from last season but I do not imagine it's changed too much this season given the numbers he's posted:

"Edinson Cavani's conversion rate (34%) this term is better than: Suarez (30%) Higuain (29%) Costa (29%) Lewandowski (25%) Ibrahimovic (21%)"

The blokes a machine.
 
Martin* said:
Granted it's from last season but I do not imagine it's changed too much this season given the numbers he's posted:

"Edinson Cavani's conversion rate (34%) this term is better than: Suarez (30%) Higuain (29%) Costa (29%) Lewandowski (25%) Ibrahimovic (21%)"

The blokes a machine.
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Cavani from Napoli would have been good but not now , the only figures of yours that can be used in my opinion is Ibra 21% . as they both played together in that league and Ibra was first choice, and for those that watched the far classier
 
salfordbluetrue said:
Cavani from Napoli would have been good but not now , the only figures of yours that can be used in my opinion is Ibra 21% . as they both played together in that league and Ibra was first choice, and for those that watched the far classier
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Ibra was at United last season.
 
Martin* said:
Granted it's from last season but I do not imagine it's changed too much this season given the numbers he's posted:

"Edinson Cavani's conversion rate (34%) this term is better than: Suarez (30%) Higuain (29%) Costa (29%) Lewandowski (25%) Ibrahimovic (21%)"

The blokes a machine.
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I'm an analytics guy, and try my best not to try to pretend stats are unimportant. But the skill we are trying to isolate here isn't what you've isolated above.

I am guessing here that the above shows goals from shots taken, Correct? But that doesn't isolate what we are looking for.

What we are trying to quantify is how often he misses big chances. Someone' posted that stat as it relates to Sane, Sterling and Aguero on the Sterling thread. I.e. How often does the player miss clear chances he should score.

This way we are not unduly crediing strikers who only shoot from clear chances and unduely lowering the value of those who take shots when often there really wasn't a chance.

The above stats are a good start, but I'd be more comfortable viewing or comparing his clear chances missed stats to those of other strikers.

That's where being clinical is found. I think :)
 
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