Political relations between UK-EU

[Vic]

Temporary ban for two months on vaccines leaving the bloc without prior approval, list of countries exempted, UK not on it.

Does that include material going into the AZ vaccine?

 

[Vic]

According to a lawyer in the relevant field on the radio, this comes down to the fact the British Government gambled and got production facilities up and running while the EU messed about , if the UK government had not gambled then we’d be in the same position as the EU , so the lawyer suggested they had no claim over the supply in the UK by the fact that this stock would not have existed but for the actions of the UK government. He suggested the question in a courtroom towards the EU is why they did not get production facilities up and running and the fact they knew about the orders the UK government had placed but still delayed.

This stock might not have existed but for the EU's order for and payment for 300m doses upfront.

 

[Vic]

That’s just narrative from one side, just as it’s narrative from the other. This isn’t going to be a court case, nor can any Govt or bloc compel the UK to relinquish supplies it is producing.

This is politics with the EU and AZ spinning their respective sides of the argument. It’s PR and arse covering.

The only solution is to crack on and produce the vaccines. The rest is just noise.

The UK is not producing supplies. AZ is producing vaccines in the UK that the EU has paid for.

 

[grunge]

Agree with all of that. That last point, I didn’t even think of as an argument tbh as it clearly can’t as you say. I haven’t seen anyone suggesting it should.[/b]

The EU seem to be pushing that idea.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

The UK is not producing supplies. AZ is producing vaccines in the UK that the EU has paid for.

and Pfizer are producing vaccines in the EU that the UK has paid for. Yet only one side was throwing their toys out of the pram threatening to block supplies.

 

[Vic]

The EU have not shut up, while the British government have left them all to it. That speaks volumes really. The British government must be confident of their position.

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The government is getting what they paid for. The EU isn't.

But the UK government has not shut up about its getting all these vaccines.

 

[meltonblue]

The EU seem to be pushing that idea.

I hadn’t seen that, just that they believe they’re entitled to some from the U.K. site. If they think their contract overrules another one then that’s ridiculous. I get the fairness argument to an extent but it’s meaningless.

 

[carlosthejackal]

This stock might not have existed but for the EU's order for and payment for 300m doses upfront.

Obviously this is one for the legal experts to sort and I doubt many who post on here fall into that category.

 

[BobKowalski]

Does that include material going into the AZ vaccine?

No idea to be honest, it smacks of a panic move and the desire to be seen doing something. Short sighted in my opinion.

 

[Ban-jani]

No and it’s not the UK governments fault either. Nobody is saying it is.

The EU is.