How much is a substantial lump? How does she know?
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- Thread starter Ric
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Piss off every person on the island of Ireland and reaffirm the loyalist movement in NI probably.Enacting the protocol? What exact purpose is that going to serve?
My mate is Republican Catholic from Belfast and he’s livid they’re being used in this manner.
So did the EU...The UK government invested public money into the Vaccine production at the UK based factory's.
BobKowalski
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Undoubtedly they did. Without malice
I agree there was no intent to deceive, but contracts were signed, 300m shots were promised by end of Jan, and here we are at the end of Jan with vaccine authorisation granted, and no shots to hand over.
Leaving the contract issue aside, the problem for AZ is they are a heavily regulated company operating in a heavily regulated sector and they are pissing off the people doing the regulating.
I also don’t think AZ signing a contract stipulating other contracts won’t impact their obligations is a wise move if their defence is the regulators should have known about the UK contract stipulations because it was mentioned in the press, therefore it’s the regulators fault for not doing a Google search.
blueish swede
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I haven't seen the AZ-UK contract so this is to some extent speculation but from what I can gather from all the various reports they ae committed to delivering 30 million doses by September. That means they can reduce the deliveries from 2 million per week and till meet their obligations. So 6.2 would not apply as long as they can still deliver to the UK in the end.
It is amusing how easily people in the UK have been duped by this non-story. It's funny too, how all the Billy big bollocks are back. Have you forgotten when France shut down Calais for two days at New Year?
It is amusing how easily people in the UK have been duped by this non-story. It's funny too, how all the Billy big bollocks are back. Have you forgotten when France shut down Calais for two days at New Year?
The Stockport Iniesta
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Vic I can't link using this browser.How much is a substantial lump? How does she know?
BBC article titled Covid: why is EU's vaccine rollout so slow?
meltonblue
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I am not defending AZ in terms of their EU agreement, it’s not where my focus is. I am very grateful for the work they’ve done and by not making a profit in doing it but I can sympathise with the EU being annoyed, even though they have made a mess of it themselves.
What I cannot abide is their acting like a gangster state towards the UK, because of their cock up. This whole border issue is going to be big now I feel and we need to stand our ground.
They’ve essentially given a massive reason for those that wished to leave to wave around, I honestly cannot believe they’re throwing their weight around like this.
I am not sure if it’s the new leadership, that woman looks dead behind her eyes, but the EU is and was a force for good, it’s beyond disappointing.
Their argument will be it’s not their cock up though, it’s AZ’s. It’ll also be pressure due to their vaccine rollout being so shit and potentially being pissed off with us depending on what clauses we put in our contract given what the AZ CEO said. AZ really should have just explicitly said they’re still fulfilling the initial order for the U.K, wouldn’t have helped them with the EU but might not have created some of the shitstorm it has.
Well they are just proving certain folk right NowI am not defending AZ in terms of their EU agreement, it’s not where my focus is. I am very grateful for the work they’ve done and by not making a profit in doing it but I can sympathise with the EU being annoyed, even though they have made a mess of it themselves.
What I cannot abide is their acting like a gangster state towards the UK, because of their cock up. This whole border issue is going to be big now I feel and we need to stand our ground.
They’ve essentially given a massive reason for those that wished to leave to wave around, I honestly cannot believe they’re throwing their weight around like this.
I am not sure if it’s the new leadership, that woman looks dead behind her eyes, but the EU is and was a force for good, it’s beyond disappointing.
Hardline remainers will continue to kiss their arse whatever but your average person will just think fuck the EU even more.
Might even improve on the 52% in last referendum now!
Del_Bosque
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So did the EU...
The EU didn’t pay for any increase in capacity at UK sites did they?
The deal with the UK was signed long before and at the time of signing with UK they were planning on having 30 million doses stockpiled for the UK by Sept.
The EU sites were where the money was used from the advanced purchase agreement
bluwes
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Much much less the UK and the USSo did the EU...