BobKowalski
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One problem with this Roberto, especially considering rics opening post, when someone states their vision you and others will then simply argue why leaving the EU won’t make this happen or argue it can be done within the EU and the revolving arguments start. Back to 2016 we will go. I Actually have a lot in common with Rascals vision but I think its not achievable with our population.
I doubt very much a line in the sand can be drawn anymore on here. Let’s see how this thread looks in a week or two. I am pretty sure it will be a continued shit fest but start of a new year etc....
I have no issue with people stating a vision as Rascal did, some parts of it I agree with, but I‘m not a socialist, I’m for seamless trade across borders to the point they know longer exist for people, goods, capital etc. I don’t agree with raising barriers between countries and people. That is my vision and it pleases me when that vision gets more and more realised in Europe, or between other countries in ever closer agreements.
Now, people who support Brexit will disagree with this vision, theirs is more about raising borders and barriers, hence their hostility to NI and Scotland within our own Union. I can demonstrate the advantages of my vision, the positive nature, if you like, I’m just asking for others to do the same.
What is the positive and practical vision of Brexit? What are the immediate benefits, specifically the benefits we couldn’t accrue while in the EU? What are the long term benefits?
What are the political benefits as per the thread title, how will a UK on the outside of decision making, but tied to EU rules and regs fare in its political relations with European countries? How will our Union fare given NI is still in the Single Market, how will Scotland react to NI having a benefit that they do not or will Johnson do what he always does, hang tough and then give Scotland a devolution gift at the last minute to keep them sweet?