Political relations between UK-EU

Gaudion M said:
Exactly.

But at some point Labour have to offer something else - I guess they delay as long as possible. The longer they wait the worse brexit looks and the more appealing their alternative looks.
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Let's hope so!
 
Gaudion M said:
Exactly.

But at some point Labour have to offer something else - I guess they delay as long as possible. The longer they wait the worse brexit looks and the more appealing their alternative looks.
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It seems the only option is not to blame Brexit but blame the manner Brexit has been handled by the Govt - pretty difficult manoeuvre for this Govt as they are the architects of the handling of Brexit - Labour need to sit back and log the incompetence, lies and duplicity then a year out Blitz them in arguments, debates and PPEB's WITH THE EXAMPLES AND PROOF. You can't call Johnson a liar in Parliament but there is fuckall problem with you doing so in a TV debate and in an interview particularly with video evidence and direct quotes and dates.
 
I'm still not being sold any positives about brexit.

Instead I'm getting threatening emails from people earning 20 times my wage telling me my contract will lead to redundancies as Brexit and covid have destroyed the industry I work in. I notice this same **** isnt willing to cut his pay and conditions to help.

Tory Brexit has been seized upon by disaster capitalists who wont stop even when we we reach inequality levels of India.
 
Maybe it's significant today that the Torygraph is running with a brexit isn't ruining the UK narrative today.
 
Rascal said:
As a poster who came to the conclusion that leaving the EU was the correct thing to do, I still think it was the correct thing to do.

What posters are doing though is blaming Brexit, rather than blaming the idiots in charge of negotiating Brexit. If Labour had backed Brexit we would have a Labour government instead of this bunch of lying halfwits in charge,

Its not Brexit's fault there are problems, its the Tories fault, they never had a plan, they still don't have a plan and they make it up as they going along. What they did was what Tories do, they bought into a populist movement and let the headbangers on the far right of the Tory party dominate, the far right of the Tory party is dangerous, its not the party it used to be, it is now reactionary rather than cautious.

They got us the worst PM in our history in charge, a fool so out of his depth I would not put him charge of organising a chimps tea party. He is still lying every day, because it is all about him, Brexit was a means for him to get his name on the Eton's honour board as an alumni PM, which is all that mattered to him, the egotistical ****.

So you can keep blaming Brexit for our problems if you want, but for fucks sake have a look at why there are problems. Its not Brexit, it is the useless fucking Government we have in charge.
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And Brexit. The choice was always a simple one. Stay in the CU and SM and accept Brussels making the rules on trade or reject the CU and SM and accept higher tade barriers, increased costs, more red tape and shortages as the supply chains are disrupted by the increase in trade friction.

Pretending that there is some magical third option where we don't have to accept the pain of the decision we made is a delusion.
 
And while the EU impose controls and restrictions on UK export trade, the UK is set to defer Brexit and taking control of our borders. Again.

 
BobKowalski said:
And Brexit. The choice was always a simple one. Stay in the CU and SM and accept Brussels making the rules on trade or reject the CU and SM and accept higher tade barriers, increased costs, more red tape and shortages as the supply chains are disrupted by the increase in trade friction.

Pretending that there is some magical third option where we don't have to accept the pain of the decision we made is a delusion.
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Why is it that even today folks cant see the logic and truth of this.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Why is it that even today folks cant see the logic and truth of this.
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Yep.

I'm surprised that anyone is surprised that Brexit isn't working the way they hoped,given the absolute whoppers who we have in charge of carrying it out.

Give it another 5 years or so though,I'm sure there might be some real benefit for us all.
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