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Political relations between UK-EU
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west didsblue
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Coincidentally Klaus Barbie was the answer to a Bullseye quiz question from 1984 that I was watching the other day. The question was who got extradited from Bolivia to France for war crimes in 1983. I got it right.Daniel Hannan is the person behind the Initiative for Free trade. A libertarian ultra free market front..
One of the people involved in Hannan's group and on its International Advisory board is Jorge Quiroga, he was Vice President to Hugo Banzer the brutal Bolivian dictator who protected a man called Klaus Barbie.
For those who have not heard of Klaus Barbie, look him up.
Hannan's fathers name was Hugh Ralston Hannan Wilson, Hannan dropped the Wilson, he claims as a child to have visited family in Santa Cruz Bolivia (Hannan was born in Peru) , Santa Cruz is where Klaus Barbie lived.
Hannan is a man unfit to be in the HoL, he is dangerous, very very fucking dangerous.
It's weird when you haven't heard a name for over 20 years then hear it twice in a few days.
Apologies for the diversion.
BobKowalski
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Well - there are often some tribute bands on in the local pubs....;-)
But you did not answer the question......
"I wonder what they do when they tour non-EU countries?"
I am guessing that they do exactly what they are being asked to do now - no?
And if so - why should their need to plan for their travels be a surprise to them?
Again, not sure having to plan and pay more for something that required less planning and cost less previously, is quite the sunlit uplands we were promised.
Is paying more for everything the Brexit dividend or indeed ‘prospering mightily’ we were promised? Because if it is I’m not sure you have quite grasped the meaning of ‘dividend’ or for that matter ‘prospering’.
BobKowalski
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Ooooh you read the FT....
We are all soooo impressed - and not surprised
This post was sponsored by the letter ‘o’.
mancity2012_eamo
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There’d still be arguments.I should just set up two separate threads, one for leavers and one for remainers. The two sides could then just project to their own echo chambers, and never the twain shall meet. Would make life easier all round.
You're probably right. No idea why people don't just use the ignore function for posters that wind them up though. God knows I wish I could.There’d still be arguments.
Ifwecouldjust.......
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lolYou're probably right. No idea why people don't just use the ignore function for posters that wind them up though. God knows I wish I could.
blueparrot
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Most of us aren’t seeing this post ;)You're probably right. No idea why people don't just use the ignore function for posters that wind them up though. God knows I wish I could.
Saddleworth2
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Its been bubbling for a few days now. its being reported in Scotland as longer than 4 hours. Poor bloody lobsters.Latest news brought to you by man who ‘reads stuff’.
‘Scottish fishermen are being told to catch less fish, due to delays created by Brexit red tape’ @Bloomberg
‘We’re now advising the catching sector to ease up,” said Jimmy Buchan, chief executive of the Scottish Seafood Association. Trucks carrying fish are facing four-hour waits to be cleared for onward transport and “we can’t guarantee we’ll get it into the marketplace,” he said.‘
“Obvious to anyone said @mcfc1632 when asked to comment. Now that we are sovereign we can take the decision to catch less fish and sit in a customs queue, it really is one of the advantages of not being tied to EU rules.”
journolud
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How would I know what they do when they tour non EU countries? Perhaps they don’t, perhaps up till now European audiences and the ease of accessing them was sufficient for them to make a decent living. Perhaps they didn’t for example tour Russia or the Middle East or anywhere else you care to mention because it wasn’t financially worth while.Well - there are often some tribute bands on in the local pubs....;-)
But you did not answer the question......
"I wonder what they do when they tour non-EU countries?"
I am guessing that they do exactly what they are being asked to do now - no?
And if so - why should their need to plan for their travels be a surprise to them?
That’s not the point though and neither is it that they shouldn’t be surprised about the extra red tape and planning now needed. I remember reading articles raising these concerns long before the final agreement was reached. Obviously it’s not something the government were particularly concerned about.
While you accuse remainers of being desperate to find bad news and like to keep up your smug commentary about the lack of queues at Dover you seem incapable of acknowledging that not all is sweetness and light and that real people’s lives are affected.
You obviously don’t give a shit about any of the short term negative consequences for anyone.