Political relations between UK-EU

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

The guy from the French ports reckoned it was 40 small boats that hadn't got licences.

UK stance is that boats that have the evidence of previous access have got licences, but why would you believe the UK stance?

I'm just a tad more inclined to believe the lying bastards at Westminster than the lying bastards over the Channel.

 

[BobKowalski]

This is it in a nutshell. This is what happens in a divorce. We decided to leave the marriage. The blame for this rests with us.

Yep. Create a situation that allows for conflict and disputes and you get conflict and disputes. In other news, an update on bears shitting in the woods.

 

[Fred_Quimby]

I'm just a tad more inclined to believe the lying bastards at Westminster than the lying bastards over the Channel.

Really?? We know the barstewards in Westminster couldn't lie straight in bed and you would believe them more than the French?? Unbelievable Jeff.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Really?? We know the barstewards in Westminster couldn't lie straight in bed and you would believe them more than the French?? Unbelievable Jeff.

Yep, really, Fred. Nobody more bloody-minded than the French if something isn't 110% to their liking, and now Angie has left Manny wants to flex his muscles and become the Big I Am within the EU., and isn't there a French election round the corner. I trust politicians as much as I trust PL refs, well, perhaps a little more than PL refs, but if there's two names on the ballot paper, BJ or EM then I go for BJ!

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Yep, really, Fred. Nobody more bloody-minded than the French if something isn't 110% to their liking, and now Angie has left Manny wants to flex his muscles and become the Big I Am within the EU., and isn't there a French election round the corner. I trust politicians as much as I trust PL refs, well, perhaps a little more than PL refs, but if there's two names on the ballot paper, BJ or EM then I go for BJ!

Aren’t you the bloke who doesn’t believe a word the media writes?
I only ask because you only know anything about Macron from that very source but you witness Johnson being a lying, duplicitous arse every day.
Apologies if you actually live in France and I have that wrong..

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Aren’t you the bloke who doesn’t believe a word the media writes?
I only ask because you only know anything about Macron from that very source but you witness Johnson being a lying, duplicitous arse every day.
Apologies if you actually live in France and I have that wrong..

A handful of French acquaintances living in France who keep me informed. It might be a jaundiced view of thinkg but it's reasonably first hand and not from the front page of Le Monde!

 

[Vic]

Castex's line about showing that "There is more damage in leaving the union than to remain" was a tail-end comment in his letter. As one French news website put it, the effect was that "Lord Frost loses it in a Twitter tirade".

Castex's main thrust was that the UK should respect the agreements it's signed. Never mind Frost suggesting a dispute settlement, Castex suggested weeks ago that if the UK doesn't grant the licences, "we will make use of the arbitration panel of the agreement to lead the British to respect their word and we will question all the conditions for the more comprehensive implementation of the agreements concluded under the aegis of the European Union".

Whoever leaked it, the letter was "interpreted" by Alex Wickham, 6 years making up stuff at Guido Fawkes and setting honey traps for Tory MPs. "France tells Brussels it must demonstrate that Britain has been damaged by leaving the EU" isn't quite what Castex said, but I don't think farmers and fishers need it to be demonstrated anyway, now they see the reality.

 

[blueparrot]

I'm just a tad more inclined to believe the lying bastards at Westminster than the lying bastards over the Channel.

But we know the government signed the Brexit deals not understanding what they had agreed , probably not even having read the agreement, or thinking they could just ignore bits that were inconvenient. We know this because they have told us and that’s why they are trying to re write the Ireland protocol. Seems more than likely the same applies to fishing because that bit too was a last minute panic signing.

 

[BobKowalski]

Castex's line about showing that "There is more damage in leaving the union than to remain" was a tail-end comment in his letter. As one French news website put it, the effect was that "Lord Frost loses it in a Twitter tirade".

Castex's main thrust was that the UK should respect the agreements it's signed. Never mind Frost suggesting a dispute settlement, Castex suggested weeks ago that if the UK doesn't grant the licences, "we will make use of the arbitration panel of the agreement to lead the British to respect their word and we will question all the conditions for the more comprehensive implementation of the agreements concluded under the aegis of the European Union".

Whoever leaked it, the letter was "interpreted" by Alex Wickham, 6 years making up stuff at Guido Fawkes and setting honey traps for Tory MPs. "France tells Brussels it must demonstrate that Britain has been damaged by leaving the EU" isn't quite what Castex said, but I don't think farmers and fishers need it to be demonstrated anyway, now they see the reality.

We don't want reality. We want fantasy. Our politics and media is geared to creating fantasy.

It is designed to make us feel better when we lose.

 

[BobKowalski]

But we know the government signed the Brexit deals not understanding what they had agreed , probably not even having read the agreement, or thinking they could just ignore bits that were inconvenient. We know this because they have told is and that’s why they are trying to re write the Ireland protocol. Seems more than likely the same applies to fishing because that bit too was a last minute panic signing.

Yeah, I am not sure doing the whole ‘supervillain mononloguing our cunning strategy to the entire world’ has been our smartest move.