Politicians are incompetent... aren't they?

[BobKowalski]

So why do you think Reform have so many followers, to the point that they are forcing themselves into the reckoning? Is everybody that thinks like that wrong? That makes a lot of wrong people to be appeased.... or indeed a lot of head wobbling going on as @FogBlueInSanFran suggests.

Roughly 20% of the population like the idea of an authoritarian and totalitarian state with no democracy. That way they can burn asylum seekers alive in hostels with none of that pesky rule of law nonsense. Their only criteria is that it cannot be ‘their own’ on the end of any murderous or harsh behaviour, it has to be ‘others’.

Of course it will be them at some point. These States always eat their own in the end, after which we are inoculated against it for another eighty to a hundred years and then we repeat the cycle.

Voting for Farage or Trump is about hating people. Doesn’t really matter who, it’s simply about hate. And a lot of people like to hate, and they especially hate people who don’t think as they do. That’s what really bothers them, makes them mad as hell. They believe people who think differently look down on them. Think they are dumb bigots. And they are right. I do look down on their ignorance, their stupidity and their dishonestly. I can’t stand them, which is why I understand their ability to hate, because I hate them back. They nauseate me with their creepy, obsequious arse licking, and moronic stupidity.

Reform voters and their fellow travellers are not new, or original or thinking differently from the ‘sheep’. They are ‘the sheep’. They just don’t have the wit or imagination to know it. They are choosing a path that humanity has gone down a thousand times before and will do so for another thousand times to come. Renaissance, enlightenment are the exception not the rule.

 

[meltonblue]

In my world 90 odd grand min and top perks is very well rewarded.

I’m sure plenty would agree. Given the job though, there’s plenty of other roles that pay far more and for a fraction of the stress, impactfulness and scrutiny. Personally it wouldn’t attract me to want to do it, I don’t think it’s a motivator for many of them at all.

The career it can bring them after perhaps though.

 

[BigJoe#1]

This is who Big Joe all wants us to vote for ...

The politics of Reform UK—despair wrapped in racism

As Reform UK surges in popularity, it’s essential that the left knows what it’s up against and how its vile racism can be beaten.

socialistworker.co.uk

Ex-Reform by-election candidate claims '98 per cent of women lying about rape'

A FORMER Reform Party candidate has claimed most women who say they have been sexually assaulted are being dishonest.

www.thenational.scot

Reform candidates made racist comments and defended Ghislaine Maxwell

Times analysis reveals the extreme views of some of Nigel Farage’s candidates

www.thetimes.com

Reform Parliamentary Candidate Who Shared Racist Content Resigns After Questions by Byline Times

Several Reform prospective parliamentary candidates have promoted conspiracy theories and other questionable content on social media.

bylinetimes.com

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Like I've said countless times before, you really do not know what you're talking about... it's just an easy way to have a dig at someone who the temerity to... and wait for this, disagree with you, the man who knows it all.... but carry on I'm amused by your infatuation about the way I think ;0)

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Roughly 20% of the population like the idea of an authoritarian and totalitarian state with no democracy. That way they can burn asylum seekers alive in hostels with none of that pesky rule of law nonsense. Their only criteria is that it cannot be ‘their own’ on the end of any murderous or harsh behaviour, it has to be ‘others’.

Of course it will be them at some point. These States always eat their own in the end, after which we are inoculated against it for another eighty to a hundred years and then we repeat the cycle.

Voting for Farage or Trump is about hating people. Doesn’t really matter who, it’s simply about hate. And a lot of people like to hate, and they especially hate people who don’t think as they do. That’s what really bothers them, makes them mad as hell. They believe people who think differently look down on them. Think they are dumb bigots. And they are right. I do look down on their ignorance, their stupidity and their dishonestly. I can’t stand them, which is why I understand their ability to hate, because I hate them back. They nauseate me with their creepy, obsequious arse licking, and moronic stupidity.

Reform voters and their fellow travellers are not new, or original or thinking differently from the ‘sheep’. They are ‘the sheep’. They just don’t have the wit or imagination to know it. They are choosing a path that humanity has gone down a thousand times before and will do so for another thousand times to come. Renaissance, enlightenment are the exception not the rule.

This post should be framed in a monument somewhere. Or nailed to the wall of every classroom. Of course those who fail to read it (or understand it) are the ones who end up fucking us up in these periodic "pesky" cycles.

Of course that said . . . I do understand their emotional, visceral reactions. I have a thing for farmers, for example. I get that city folk often look down on them, yet if said urbanites were immersed in the agricultural world, many would be as useless as tits on a boar.

The question is what solutions we turn to to solve division and compromise to achieve maximum social benefit for as many people as possible, which should always be the goal of civiliz(s)ed democratic societies as designed.

If that's what's kept in mind, Reform or MAGA are INSTANT, IMMEDIATE rejects to any thoughtful good-hearted person ON THEIR FACE no matter the alternatives. It should be a reflex reaction -- you shouldn't even have to consider it -- because you KNOW "maximum social benefit for all" is NOT the aim.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Like I've said countless times before, you really do not know what you're talking about... it's just an easy way to have a dig at someone who the temerity to... and wait for this, disagree with you, the man who knows it all.... but carry on I'm amused by your infatuation about the way I think ;0)

What do you disagree with ?

Do you not believe the Reform party are a bunch of xenophobic racist far right morons despite the mounting evidence?

 

[BigJoe#1]

What do you disagree with ?

Do you not believe the Reform party are a bunch of xenophobic racist far right morons despite the mounting evidence?

I disagree with you forever promoting Reform by posting videos, and basically everything you post because it's complete tripe.... IMO (maybe not yours but definitely mine), particularly your worshiping the Labour Party, It's really nauseating... I'm surprised your still supporting Wet Sham and haven't switched your allegiance to the Arse so you can suck up even more to your idol.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Some of them are very competent...



... at lying.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Some of them are very competent...



... at lying.

I think they are far from being incompetent. How could you extract so much from the public purse and endless freebies if you didn't know what you were doing. I think they are selfish, dishonest. often heartless but not incompetent. Incomepetence is something I reserve for PiGMOL's finest!

 

[BlueHammer85]

I disagree with you forever promoting Reform by posting videos, and basically everything you post because it's complete tripe.... IMO (maybe not yours but definitely mine), particularly your worshiping the Labour Party, It's really nauseating... I'm surprised your still supporting Wet Sham and haven't switched your allegiance to the Arse so you can suck up even more to your idol.

Do you not believe the Reform party are a bunch of xenophobic racist far right morons despite the mounting evidence?

 

[remember arthur mann]

Yep, bunch of bent cnuts. Should earn no more than a tradesman, same holidays too.

 

[BTH]

Yep, bunch of bent cnuts. Should earn no more than a tradesman, same holidays too.

Like Charlie Mullins?

 

[remember arthur mann]

Like Charlie Mullins?

 

[BigJoe#1]

Do you not believe the Reform party are a bunch of xenophobic racist far right morons despite the mounting evidence?

Your language and vocabulary discounts many valid points that you may have and your inability to recognise that there might be some shortfalls in your own reasoning makes it difficult to engage in sensible debate... sadly you are not alone in that. I fully acknowledge that other will think likewise of me.

 

[BTH]

Your language and vocabulary discounts many valid points that you may have and your inability to recognise that there might be some shortfalls in your own reasoning makes it difficult to engage in sensible debate... sadly you are not alone in that. I fully acknowledge that other will think likewise of me.

Nowt like not answering the question, is there? What is this torturous guff?

 

[BlueHammer85]

Your language and vocabulary discounts many valid points that you may have and your inability to recognise that there might be some shortfalls in your own reasoning makes it difficult to engage in sensible debate... sadly you are not alone in that. I fully acknowledge that other will think likewise of me.

A very simple lol from me. You crack on.

 

[BigJoe#1]

A very simple lol from me. You crack on.

Yup.

 

[west didsblue]

Your language and vocabulary discounts many valid points that you may have and your inability to recognise that there might be some shortfalls in your own reasoning makes it difficult to engage in sensible debate... sadly you are not alone in that. I fully acknowledge that other will think likewise of me.

Would have been easier and much more informative to answer either yes or no instead of waffling.

 

[BigJoe#1]

Would have been easier and much more informative to answer either yes or no instead of waffling.

True... you're absolutely right....

 

[BlueHammer85]

Would have been easier and much more informative to answer either yes or no instead of waffling.

I called him out as a Reform fan ages ago and his been squirming ever since - he can’t bring himself to denounce them and gets all hot and bothered when you point out what a bunch of cunts they are - it’s quite amusing really.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I called him out as a Reform fan ages ago and his been squirming ever since - he can’t bring himself to denounce them and gets all hot and bothered when you point out what a bunch of cunts they are - it’s quite amusing really.

Surely anyone outed as a reform fan should be made to atone and answer questions properly at least?