Politics

Mike D said:
Come on somebody start me off I'm getting bored with the BBC site and people agreeing with me. So come on lets have it who thinks that the coalition will cave in once this boundries nonsense falls on its *rse. How long before Cameron and his tory toff's are kicked back into the long political grass the long term.
You nearly made a point with resorting to snobbery. Well done.
 
117 M34 said:
city diehard said:
Mike D said:
Come on somebody start me off I'm getting bored with the BBC site and people agreeing with me. So come on lets have it who thinks that the coalition will cave in once this boundries nonsense falls on its *rse. How long before Cameron and his tory toff's are kicked back into the long political grass the long term.

The sooner the better, from day one his government has been an absolute shambles. The u-turn after u-turn just shows the ineptitude of the government, compounded with the dire economic policies which have caused a recession (bordering on depression) it can't get much worse. The sooner Labour are in office the better.

...because labour did such a great job with the economy.

Well they had their faults but on the whole they did yes.
 
Just read the third volume of Chris Mullin's diary, Decline & Fall. Mullin was the independently-minded, leftish-leaning MP for the Sunderland South constituency and was the journalist who took up the case of the Birmingham Six.

His contempt for the packaged, "on-message" politics of both New Labour & Cameron's Conservatives is quite clear and deliciously expressed. Well worth a read but at the same time profoundly depressing when one reads about the shallowness of the people (in all parties) running the country, who are more interested in scoring points off each other than doing things for the ordinary people who elect them.
 
city diehard said:
117 M34 said:
city diehard said:
The sooner the better, from day one his government has been an absolute shambles. The u-turn after u-turn just shows the ineptitude of the government, compounded with the dire economic policies which have caused a recession (bordering on depression) it can't get much worse. The sooner Labour are in office the better.

...because labour did such a great job with the economy.

Well they had their faults but on the whole they did yes.

So tell me then, was the economy in a better state when Labour left compared to when they first come to power?

city diehard said:
black mamba said:
city diehard said:
I'm not

The sooner the better, from day one his government has been an absolute shambles. The u-turn after u-turn just shows the ineptitude of the government, compounded with the dire economic policies which have caused a recession (bordering on depression) it can't get much worse. The sooner Labour are in office the better.

I'm no Tory , but New Labour were a complete and utter shambles ...... and quite frankly they are no better now !

Long period of economic growth, NHS vastly improved, Education standards increased dramatically, hardly a shambles. The economic record caused by their destructive policies of this tory-led government alone should result in them losing power.

HAHA
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Just read the third volume of Chris Mullin's diary, Decline & Fall. Mullin was the independently-minded, leftish-leaning MP for the Sunderland South constituency and was the journalist who took up the case of the Birmingham Six.

His contempt for the packaged, "on-message" politics of both New Labour & Cameron's Conservatives is quite clear and deliciously expressed. Well worth a read but at the same time profoundly depressing when one reads about the shallowness of the people (in all parties) running the country, who are more interested in scoring points off each other than doing things for the ordinary people who elect them.
Yep, one of the reasons party politics is a bit silly nowadays.

Still I'd be happy if labour got in as it helps my work and it'd be interesting to see the labour followers defending for a change.
 
Mike D said:
Come on somebody start me off I'm getting bored with the BBC site and people agreeing with me. So come on lets have it who thinks that the coalition will cave in once this boundries nonsense falls on its *rse. How long before Cameron and his tory toff's are kicked back into the long political grass the long term.
I'm not a Tory, but as soon as I read a statement like that I just switch off. You are aware of the Labour Leader's background aren't you? I'm also sure that you are under no misconceptions about the background of all of his advisors as well?

Tory toffs......Jesus Christ.

Mind you, good wumming.
 
117 M34 said:
city diehard said:
117 M34 said:
...because labour did such a great job with the economy.

Well they had their faults but on the whole they did yes.

So tell me then, was the economy in a better state when Labour left compared to when they first come to power?

city diehard said:
black mamba said:
I'm no Tory , but New Labour were a complete and utter shambles ...... and quite frankly they are no better now !

Long period of economic growth, NHS vastly improved, Education standards increased dramatically, hardly a shambles. The economic record caused by their destructive policies of this tory-led government alone should result in them losing power.

HAHA

Sure Labour caused the collapse of the financial system in 2008? Therefore the amateur inference your trying to make is poor since it is obviously going to be worse. However, when Labour left office we were experiencing economic growth and unemployment was falling.

They did though, so what actually is your point?
 
SWP's back said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Just read the third volume of Chris Mullin's diary, Decline & Fall. Mullin was the independently-minded, leftish-leaning MP for the Sunderland South constituency and was the journalist who took up the case of the Birmingham Six.

His contempt for the packaged, "on-message" politics of both New Labour & Cameron's Conservatives is quite clear and deliciously expressed. Well worth a read but at the same time profoundly depressing when one reads about the shallowness of the people (in all parties) running the country, who are more interested in scoring points off each other than doing things for the ordinary people who elect them.
Yep, one of the reasons party politics is a bit silly nowadays.

Still I'd be happy if labour got in as it helps my work and it'd be interesting to see the labour followers defending for a change.

didnt you know if labour managed to be any good that would prove socialism works, if they did badly it would just mean they werent really socialists, its a no lose arguement
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Just read the third volume of Chris Mullin's diary, Decline & Fall. Mullin was the independently-minded, leftish-leaning MP for the Sunderland South constituency and was the journalist who took up the case of the Birmingham Six.

His contempt for the packaged, "on-message" politics of both New Labour & Cameron's Conservatives is quite clear and deliciously expressed. Well worth a read but at the same time profoundly depressing when one reads about the shallowness of the people (in all parties) running the country, who are more interested in scoring points off each other than doing things for the ordinary people who elect them.
Have you read 'a view from the foothills'? If so how does decline and fall compare?
 
hilts said:
SWP's back said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Just read the third volume of Chris Mullin's diary, Decline & Fall. Mullin was the independently-minded, leftish-leaning MP for the Sunderland South constituency and was the journalist who took up the case of the Birmingham Six.

His contempt for the packaged, "on-message" politics of both New Labour & Cameron's Conservatives is quite clear and deliciously expressed. Well worth a read but at the same time profoundly depressing when one reads about the shallowness of the people (in all parties) running the country, who are more interested in scoring points off each other than doing things for the ordinary people who elect them.
Yep, one of the reasons party politics is a bit silly nowadays.

Still I'd be happy if labour got in as it helps my work and it'd be interesting to see the labour followers defending for a change.

didnt you know if labour managed to be any good that would prove socialism works, if they did badly it would just mean they werent really socialists, its a no lose arguement
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