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salfordpaul said:
hi all. Pep hasn't inherited a team of players like he had at Barca and Bayern. He IS the best manager about but can't turn water into wine. We re being sucked into the media frenzy which is now rubbing their hands as he struggles. He has made a couple of mistakes so far- completely understandable in my view as he gets cosy with the PL and how it works.
Don't worry, this is the long haul. He will lead us to be the biggest machine in Europe. He has funds, knowledge and expertise. I expect a half decent year and then a resounding 2nd season

All good blues, breathe deeply and relax
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if he can't turn water into wine - why is he trying? Kolarov in the centre of defence (or anywhere for that matter...) a goalkeeper bought to do short passes to a defender who then often just leathers it up themselves etc etc. Instead of failing to turn water into wine - work with the water and its limitations until you get the wine. (Saying that we aren't talking about bloody pub players here who are a mile away from being decent players and he did sign half a team in the summer only 2 of which played yesterday). When Sam Alardyce went to Crystal Palace he turned up with a full dossier on each player in the squad - strengths / weaknesses etc. Pep is the best but didn't know about our league and how it works? Guess it's a shame it's never on TV much or shame we don't have any detailed info on how everyone plays etc to help him out and he has to start totally blind.
 
I get that Pep is a great coach but a great coach wouldn't continually pick Kolarov. I don't get it.
He is a waste of oxygen, why he plays amazes me, he is rank rotten.
 
We need to spend big in January to make sure we hit the ground running next season.

I can't see us catching Chelsea now and it's all well and good saying that Pep needs a transitional season but half of this side either isn't good enough or won't be here come next season. That means with the influx of new players they will need time to adapt. Before we know it, it could be Peps final season before we actually muster a title challenge
 
Kris_Musampa said:
The first 10 games seemed to lull a lot of people into thinking this EPL lark would be a cakewalk.

The reality is we were and still are a team in need of rebuilding, we certainly knew that at the end of last season.

What Pep has managed with more or less the same side is pretty decent. This is his first season, and yes questions can be asked about some of his decisions and team choices, but every game he plays he will learn a bit more about the squad he has, and what areas need to be addressed. However, the rebuild will take time, this isn't Football Manager on the Xbox, this is real and there will be slips along the way, but I for one can live with that.

To me the target is top four and a CL slot, but even if that's not achieved, its not a disaster in terms of building a team, it certainly hasn't harmed Chelsea or Liverpool much has it given their respective positions in the table!

I know it's an open football forum, and it's all about opinions blah blah blah, but some of the drama queens, fifth columnists and impatient (moaning) b@stards on these pages are starting to get on my waz.
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That’s fair enough to a point, but equally there’s been too much ridiculous blind faith, when for different reasons, the spine of our team (Hart, Zabaleta, Kompany, Yaya, Silva, Aguero) was gradually declining as a major force.

This hasn’t just happened in the Autumn of 2016. In fact the lethargy was creeping into our performances towards the end of 2013-14, (horrific first 15 minutes at Anfield, and almost threw it away at Goodison)) but was largely ignored because we finished as Champions.
It then continued into the following season with lacklustre starts at QPR and West Ham, and pathetic performances at Burnley and the Swamp.

These positive threads kept emerging, all of them full of admirable optimism, but no substance.


If we want to remain positive, then we need Jesus to hit the ground running, and Sane to keep improving. That should give us more desire, hunger and speed, which we currently lack to an alarming degree.
 
On a positive note we have some good young prospects - anyone else looking forward to seeing a front three of Sterling-Jesus-Sane? - will give EPL defenders nightmares if our midfield can feed them.

TBH I think that the Mancini team has been allowed to go on for too long. I love (most of) them but time waits for no man.
 
jamesha said:
On a positive note we have some good young prospects - anyone else looking forward to seeing a front three of Sterling-Jesus-Sane? - will give EPL defenders nightmares if our midfield can feed them.

TBH I think that the Mancini team has been allowed to go on for too long. I love (most of) them but time waits for no man.
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Add zinchenco behind and you have the basis for years to come
 
Scaring Europe to Death said:
These positive threads kept emerging, all of them full of admirable optimism, but no substance.
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Do these not count as substance?

  • Arguably the best coach in the world at the helm
  • Definitely the best owners running the club
  • A sizeable pot of money to invest that is perfectly legitimate and free from jealous manipulation
  • One of the best and most promising youth systems in Europe (if not the world?) just starting to gain momentum
  • Such players as Sane, Zinchenko, Gundog, Gabriel Jesus, all picked up by the current regime, all long term purchases with big potential, not short term appeasements.

There are no guarantees in the game, and things certainly aren't going along as sweetly as we'd all like, which is obviously frustrating, but to say there is no substance in my or any other fellow blues optimism is just plain wrong. Some people get lost in the moment of a disappointing game or defeat, which I understand, but bloody hell we have mighty grounds to be optimistic!
 
Sorry mate, but I'm not going to justify something that I didn't actually say.

If you read my post again, I wasn't having a go at you, or any of the things that you've just stated. In fact, most of them I agree with.
I was referring to the previous two seasons and the blind faith that despite the growing concerns and nagging doubts that were appearing in the Summer/Autumn of 2014 (Kompany's recurring injuries, not replacing Negredo, lethargic starts etc), everything would suddenly come good.
Some of those nagging doubts have now become major concerns. Our slow full backs have become slower, Kompany still isn't fit, and some of our match winners aren't winning matches.

However, I agree that in the long term, everything looks far rosier than the present.
 
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