Possible moving of EL3 Fans

[mancitygaz]

Can it work?

They'd have to give the away fans a spiral to themselves, leaving two spirals for the rest level 3 and all of level 2.

Not too mention the coach park being perfectly situated atm.

It would be a right ball ache getting out of the East Stand and onto the main roads. Not sure how they could work it tbh.

 

[Fame Monster]

No because there aren't that many spare seats elsewhere are there?
Most of the spare seats would be in the 3k vacated by the away fans.

CBL3.

Didn't minimalistic already tell you 'I got my seasoncard late July last year (about 2 weeks before they sold out). All the central sections and front sections of CB3 were sold out with season cards'

Perhaps he was making it up too. As I say check the Norwich game on line now and see how many tickets are available anywhere near the front 20 rows of the CB3 (or perhaps they are being hidden too??)

He wrote that, yes. I asked him to prove it? He didn't. I also want to know how that relates to what's happening next year in CBL3 because unless he knows the future, he won't be able to tell us with any certainty. Nor will you.

I imagine there'll be plenty available in CBL3, with the same view, to satisfy most of the displaced who wish to remain in the third tier, causing minimum hassle and improving the matchday experience for a large majority of our fans, especially the ones who can now afford to sit in the vacated south stand.

 

[Tonster]

CBL3.

Didn't minimalistic already tell you 'I got my seasoncard late July last year (about 2 weeks before they sold out). All the central sections and front sections of CB3 were sold out with season cards'

Perhaps he was making it up too. As I say check the Norwich game on line now and see how many tickets are available anywhere near the front 20 rows of the CB3 (or perhaps they are being hidden too??)

He wrote that, yes. I asked him to prove it? He didn't. I also want to know how that relates to what's happening next year in CBL3 because unless he knows the future, he won't be able to tell us with any certainty. Nor will you.

I imagine there'll be plenty available in CBL3, with the same view, to satisfy most of the displaced who wish to remain in the third tier, causing minimum hassle and improving the matchday experience for a large majority of our fans, especially the ones who can now afford to sit in the vacated south stand.

Jesus, how can this be at all possible? Check on line (there's your proof detective although why would he or me lie, you don't have a very high opinion of fellow blues just because it doesn't suit your agenda), there are no tickets available before around row Z and higher, especially in the centre of either of the 3rd tiers. We have more seasoncard holders than ever, I don't expect a load not to renew do you, we're not watching Stuart Pearce era now.
So how can you move several thousand EL3 into same view seats. You can't.

 

[117 M34]

hope it happens if im being honest would rather have operation on end in effect and have a good atmosphere for once, people say it doesnt mean theres going to be a good atmosphere, however I would rather have 6000 or 7,000 fans stood next to each other rather than seperated and being slicenced by away fans in the middle

Do you think that it is a coincidence that the two singing parts of the ground are directly next to the away fans?

i dont. Where are the cheapest seats, that aren't/ werent under the family section?

Incidentally. 4.5k in each level 3 area? I'm not having that, must be more like 7k, surely? If its true, we need a word on the las vegas thread, building over north and south stands surely wouldnt get us 6k each along shorter sides of the pitch.

Anyway, i digress, forward with operation one end, please.

Up until this season North Stand level 1 wasn't family stand and was the same price as the South Stand. They didn't sing because they weren't in close proximity to the away fans. I can guarantee if the away fans move, you will suddenly hear level 3 becoming much more vocal and the South Stand becoming much quieter.

 

[Fame Monster]

Didn't minimalistic already tell you 'I got my seasoncard late July last year (about 2 weeks before they sold out). All the central sections and front sections of CB3 were sold out with season cards'

Perhaps he was making it up too. As I say check the Norwich game on line now and see how many tickets are available anywhere near the front 20 rows of the CB3 (or perhaps they are being hidden too??)

He wrote that, yes. I asked him to prove it? He didn't. I also want to know how that relates to what's happening next year in CBL3 because unless he knows the future, he won't be able to tell us with any certainty. Nor will you.

I imagine there'll be plenty available in CBL3, with the same view, to satisfy most of the displaced who wish to remain in the third tier, causing minimum hassle and improving the matchday experience for a large majority of our fans, especially the ones who can now afford to sit in the vacated south stand.

Jesus, how can this be at all possible? Check on line (there's your proof detective although why would he or me lie, you don't have a very high opinion of fellow blues just because it doesn't suit your agenda), there are no tickets available before around row Z and higher, especially in the centre of either of the 3rd tiers. We have more seasoncard holders than ever, I don't expect a load not to renew do you, we're not watching Stuart Pearce era now.
So how can you move several thousand EL3 into same view seats. You can't.

How are you missing the point?

When you relocate next year (hopefully), it won't matter about what seats are spare for a game against Norwich six months earlier, it'll matter what seats are spare on the day you relocate.

Given that, when we don't sell out, the majority of empty seats are in the third tier, and that there is a limit of 36,000 seasoncard holders, it's extremely likely that there will be ample room for the displaced seasoncard holders (of which there'll be about a 1000) to enjoy a similar view in CBL3. A small proportion (maybe 1 in 10) of the current season card holders in CBL3 might either relocate or give up their seasoncard meaning there's those seats available too.

Put simply, if you want a seasoncard with a good view in CBL3, you will likely get one.

Edit: I think the displaced ESL3 seasoncard holders should get first option on where they sit.

 

[Tonster]

He wrote that, yes. I asked him to prove it? He didn't. I also want to know how that relates to what's happening next year in CBL3 because unless he knows the future, he won't be able to tell us with any certainty. Nor will you.

I imagine there'll be plenty available in CBL3, with the same view, to satisfy most of the displaced who wish to remain in the third tier, causing minimum hassle and improving the matchday experience for a large majority of our fans, especially the ones who can now afford to sit in the vacated south stand.

Jesus, how can this be at all possible? Check on line (there's your proof detective although why would he or me lie, you don't have a very high opinion of fellow blues just because it doesn't suit your agenda), there are no tickets available before around row Z and higher, especially in the centre of either of the 3rd tiers. We have more seasoncard holders than ever, I don't expect a load not to renew do you, we're not watching Stuart Pearce era now.
So how can you move several thousand EL3 into same view seats. You can't.

How are you missing the point?

When you relocate next year (hopefully), it won't matter about what seats are spare for a game against Norwich six months earlier, it'll matter what seats are spare on the day you relocate.

Given that, when we don't sell out, the majority of empty seats are in the third tier, and that there is a limit of 36,000 seasoncard holders, it's extremely likely that there will be ample room for the displaced seasoncard holders (of which there'll be about a 1000) to enjoy a similar view in CBL3. A small proportion (maybe 1 in 10) of the current season card holders in CBL3 might either relocate or give up their seasoncard meaning there's those seats available too.

Put simply, if you want a seasoncard with a good view in CBL3, you will likely get one.

Edit: I think the displaced ESL3 seasoncard holders should get first option on where they sit.

I give up. Of course it matters what are spare now. Tickets have only just gone on sale to blue card holders for Norwich so all the seats already taken and not for sale are seasoncard holder seats. So they're not available now nor will they be next season. Further in my example I'm on row D on the halfway line, I know for a fact that all those similar seats in CB3 are already seasoncard seats.
Christ you see it every game and if you check on line all the spare seats are at the very back or at the very front of the lower tier (i.e. the shit seats)
Also there is a group of 20/30 of us that have sat together since Maine road for a number of years and enjoy all the banter, chat etc, that all gets lost when everyone gets split up.
Still, as long as we get one end, never mind pissing off fans like me who go home and away for 25 years eh?

 

[warpig]

As an aside, anyone heard anything about some of us in 105 getting shifted to make way for more padded seat corporate/hospitality types? One guy in our row reckons it's coming but nobody else has heard owt.

thats were my old man sits. if not next season will be season after id imagine.

 

[Fame Monster]

Jesus, how can this be at all possible? Check on line (there's your proof detective although why would he or me lie, you don't have a very high opinion of fellow blues just because it doesn't suit your agenda), there are no tickets available before around row Z and higher, especially in the centre of either of the 3rd tiers. We have more seasoncard holders than ever, I don't expect a load not to renew do you, we're not watching Stuart Pearce era now.
So how can you move several thousand EL3 into same view seats. You can't.

How are you missing the point?

When you relocate next year (hopefully), it won't matter about what seats are spare for a game against Norwich six months earlier, it'll matter what seats are spare on the day you relocate.

Given that, when we don't sell out, the majority of empty seats are in the third tier, and that there is a limit of 36,000 seasoncard holders, it's extremely likely that there will be ample room for the displaced seasoncard holders (of which there'll be about a 1000) to enjoy a similar view in CBL3. A small proportion (maybe 1 in 10) of the current season card holders in CBL3 might either relocate or give up their seasoncard meaning there's those seats available too.

Put simply, if you want a seasoncard with a good view in CBL3, you will likely get one.

Edit: I think the displaced ESL3 seasoncard holders should get first option on where they sit.

I give up. Of course it matters what are spare now. Tickets have only just gone on sale to blue card holders for Norwich so all the seats already taken and not for sale are seasoncard holder seats. So they're not available now nor will they be next season. Further in my example I'm on row D on the halfway line, I know for a fact that all those similar seats in CB3 are already seasoncard seats.
Christ you see it every game and if you check on line all the spare seats are at the very back or at the very front of the lower tier (i.e. the shit seats)
Also there is a group of 20/30 of us that have sat together since Maine road for a number of years and enjoy all the banter, chat etc, that all gets lost when everyone gets split up.
Still, as long as we get one end, never mind pissing off fans like me who go home and away for 25 years eh?

I don't think you realise that not all available seats are put online. Some are available only over the phone.

Unless you know everyone on Row D of the CBL3, you won't know whether they'll be renewing next season.

When you go away, do you give them the whole 25 years line and demand a seat with a good view with all your mates near you?

 

[Tonster]

How are you missing the point?

When you relocate next year (hopefully), it won't matter about what seats are spare for a game against Norwich six months earlier, it'll matter what seats are spare on the day you relocate.

Given that, when we don't sell out, the majority of empty seats are in the third tier, and that there is a limit of 36,000 seasoncard holders, it's extremely likely that there will be ample room for the displaced seasoncard holders (of which there'll be about a 1000) to enjoy a similar view in CBL3. A small proportion (maybe 1 in 10) of the current season card holders in CBL3 might either relocate or give up their seasoncard meaning there's those seats available too.

Put simply, if you want a seasoncard with a good view in CBL3, you will likely get one.

Edit: I think the displaced ESL3 seasoncard holders should get first option on where they sit.

I give up. Of course it matters what are spare now. Tickets have only just gone on sale to blue card holders for Norwich so all the seats already taken and not for sale are seasoncard holder seats. So they're not available now nor will they be next season. Further in my example I'm on row D on the halfway line, I know for a fact that all those similar seats in CB3 are already seasoncard seats.
Christ you see it every game and if you check on line all the spare seats are at the very back or at the very front of the lower tier (i.e. the shit seats)
Also there is a group of 20/30 of us that have sat together since Maine road for a number of years and enjoy all the banter, chat etc, that all gets lost when everyone gets split up.
Still, as long as we get one end, never mind pissing off fans like me who go home and away for 25 years eh?

I don't think you realise that not all available seats are put online. Some are available only over the phone.

Unless you know everyone on Row D of the CBL3, you won't know whether they'll be renewing next season.

When you go away, do you give them the whole 25 years line and demand a seat with a good view with all your mates near you?

No, but as someone with 10000+ points I do get first choice of tickets for every away game and so get to choose before others.

However that's not the point is it? This is so typical of the not really giving a shit how this sort of idea affects others mentality and I've noticed most of the people advocating a move aren't those affected in EL3.

When you've supported the club through shitty times for years when I could have chosen my own block let alone seat back in the 80's and late 90's I don't expect to be shunted around now based on another shitty experiment (like the half empty mid week family stand)

As for the notion that everyone might not renew next year (so little to renew for these days) so 4 of us together on row D can move across seemlessly well I'll treat that comment as the nonsense we both know it is.

 

[shawgorbie]

A flyer was passed around our section of EL3 on Saturday concerning the possibility of permanently moving the entire Away fans section to 306,307, 308 & 309.

In a nutshell it made the point that many of these seats are situated in a prime location close to the halfway line, and inhabited by many fans since the stadium first opened. To a lot of people a big part of the matchday is sitting and having the craic with a group of people who over the years have become friends.

These seats don't come cheap and there is the possibility that some EL3 fans could be moved to the South Stand to make way for Away Fans. The obvious reason why most fans who sit near the halfway line do so is because they simply don't like the view from behind the goals.

It also suggested that as many as possible should attend the Points Blue Meeting in order to voice a protest. I just wondered if anything is being organised on a more formal basis by whoever distributed the flyer ? Is there an e-mail petition for those who physically cannot get to the Meeting ?

I would be one of those affected and (along with many others no doubt) I would wish to voice my own protest. I fully appreciate the feelings of those who want the South Stand to be all City, and I can understand the reason why, but we should all have a voice on this Away Fans issue. One way or another some fans are going to be upset by the outcome - whether sections are moved or it stays as it is. I wouldn't like to think that we in EL3 could be railroaded into being moved without proper consideration by the Club.

'Sticking the Away Fans up in the Gods' seems to be an argument used on a regular occasion by some South Standers, and in stadia where that's practical (e.g. St James') I would agree. At the moment though it's not quite as simple as that at the Etihad.

never understood this move the away fans thing.They are surrounded on both sides by how should i put this,fans who like a bit of banter.These fans sat there in the first place for a reason,what are they going to do follow them all around the stadium